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Date: 15 Dec 1995 09:07:55
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From: bnalexan@umich.edu
Subject: Re: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/1990 Lebanon
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From: "Bryan A. Alexander"
Subject: Re: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/1990 Lebanon
A good note:
Bryan Alexander
Department of English
University of Michigan
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On 15 Dec 1995, Ivo Skoric wrote:
> From: "Ivo Skoric"
> Subject: Re: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/1990 Lebanon
>
> Wherever there are people willing to fight, there will be industry
> willing to provide weapons.
And if a people is unwilling to fight, said industry and its allies will
do their best to get those people to fight.
Sometimes this industry help put in such
> places governments "friendly" to the industry's interests.
> Governments who would be able to "lead" their subjects to fight.
> The safest place to live in this world is near the arms factory - its
> bosses that sell weapons of destruction to others (preferably
> overseas), will take damn well care to secure their property.
That's
> why naturally no matter the immigration laws, there will be more and
> more immigrants from the third world to the West.
True, true.
>
> Also, they hate to waste their investment, so all unused weapons
> would be quickly transported to other willing users as soon as the
> conflict in designated area wanes. Does anybody know where the
> conflict will move once Bosnia is settled?
Hard to say. The US is moving into election throes, so Cliton will try
to keep from getting involved in anything else for the next 12 months.
>
> ivo
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From: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (Tommaso Tozzi)
Subject: Net'Strike - Sciopero della rete
X-Mailer:
NET'STRIKE Sciopero della rete
First hour Prima ora
21-12-1995
dalle 18:00 alle 19:00
from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. (France time zone)
Partecipa al primo sciopero globale della rete Internet
Enjoy the first global strike in Internet
================================================
Attention!!!
You find english translation at the bottom of message!
================================================
Istruzioni per l'uso:
- Diffondi e promuovi questo messaggio.
- a) Il giorno 21-12-1995 dalle 18:00 alle 19:00 (data e ora
cambiano a seconda del fuso orario; consulta la tabella n.2
in fondo al messaggio) collegati ai siti web del governo
francese (vedi elenco indirizzi nella tabella n.1 in fondo al
messaggio, oppure ritaglia e usa l'home page che trovi
nella tabella n.3 in fondo al messaggio).
b) Ripeti l'operazione piu' volte (a intervalli di pochi
secondi) per un'ora.
Una manifestazione di 1000, 10.000, 100.000 utenti
in fila uno dietro l'altro in un corteo globale nei cavi
dei siti internet del governo francese.
Il risultato di tale sciopero sara' quello di paralizzare
per un'ora l'attivita' in rete del governo francese.
BOICOTTIAMO LE ISTITUZIONI GOVERNATIVE FRANCESI!
Il governo francese mostrando un totale disprezzo per il
proprio popolo, per la comunita' internazionale, per la
gente comune che vorrebbe crescere i propri figli in un
mondo migliore:
- prosegue i suoi esperimenti nucleari nel Pacifico;
- continua ad utilizzare il nucleare "civile" come principale
fonte energetica;
- continua a perpetrare i suoi progetti di "ristrutturazione
sociale" nonostante l'eccezionale partecipazione dei
francesi alle manifestazioni di protesta.
Per questo intendiamo togliere, anche se solo parzialmente
e solo per periodi limitati, alle istituzioni governative
francesi i privilegi a cui tanto tengono tutti i potenti, i
signori della guerra, della fame e dell'ingiustizia sociale:
l'accesso ai sempre piu' potenti mezzi comunicativi e ai
canali informativi, quegli stessi privilegi che vengono
negati alla stragrande maggioranza della popolazione
mondiale.
Continueremo le nostre azioni con ogni mezzo necessario,
utilizzando strumenti perfettamente legali, anche se presto
i potenti della Terra, che disprezzano la volonta' dei popoli
dovranno rendersi conto di quanto potenti possano essere
simili mezzi.
Questo e' il primo, ma non sara' l'ultimo degli scioperi
che promuoveremo in rete. Se vuoi essere contattato
per le prossime iniziative spedisci un messaggio al
seguente indirizzo:
Strano.Network@vttvnet.trident.nettuno.it
con subject: Net'Strike
e come testo del messaggio il tuo indirizzo internet
Attacco comunicativo globale - Massive Comunicative Attack
Strano Network
===================================================
English translation
*******************
Instructions:
- Spread this message everywhere
- a) In the date 21/12/1995, 6pm-7pm (day and hour change in relationship to
the time zone, look at the list no. 2 at the
bottom of the message), link to sites of French Government (look at the
list no. 1 or cut and copy the home page of the
list no. 3);
b) reply said procedure several times for an hour by using intervals of few
seconds.
A demonstration of 1000, 10.000, 100.000 netusers all together making part
of a line crossing French Government's sites.
The result of this strike will be to stop for an hour network activities of
French Government.
BOIKOTT THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT'S INSTITUTIONS!.
French Goverment has shown a total contempt for French people, for
international community, for common people who
just would like to grow up their sons in a better world as it:
- goes on with nuclear experiments in Pacific Ocean's islands
- goes on with use of nuclear energy as mainly source of "civil" energy
- goes on with its projects of "social redrawing" without taking into
account the enormous presence of people in recent
demonstrations of protest against such kind of policy.
These are the reasons that drove us to to take off to french government (for
a while...) some of the privileges that every
powerful man involved in war-games and exploitation plans like very much:
The access to the ever growing important
new information media. The same privileges denied to all common people.
We will go on with our demonstrations with any means, using all
technologies, always respecting the law. Those political
fellows which do not take into any account people's needs will understand
very soon the real power of new information
technologies.
This is the first strike that we promote, in the future there will be other
ons. If you want to get informations for next
demonstrations and activities send a message to this address:
Strano.Network@vttvnet. trident.nettuno.it
with subject: Net'Strike
and as content of your message your Internet address
MASSIVE COMMUNICATIVE ATTACK
Strano Network
=====================================================
LIST 1
*******
Elenco dei siti Internet del governo francese:
List of France government Internet Web sites:
Les services Web du Gouvernement Francais
http://www.adit.fr/GOUV/GOUV.html
Le Ministere des Affaires Etrangeres
http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/
Le Ministere de la Culture et de la Francophonie
http://web.culture.fr/
Le Ministere de l'Industrie
http://www.ensmp.fr:80/industrie/
Le Ministere de l'Education Nationale,
de l'Enseignement Superieur, de la Recherche
et de l'Insertion professionnelle
http://www.edutel.fr/
Le Ministere de l'Economie, des Finances
et du plan
http://www.tresor.finances.fr/oat/
Le Ministere de la Sante; publique
et de l'Assurance Maladie
http://www.sante.fr
Electricite de France
http://www.edf.fr/
OECD Nuclear Energy Agency
http://www.nea.fr/
Le serveur WWW de l'Education Nationale
http://www.mesr.fr/
===================================================
LIST 2
*******
Orario e data dello sciopero:
Day and hour of the strike:
Anchorage: from 8:00 to 9:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995
Atene: from 7:00 to 8:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Barcellona: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Belgrado: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Berlino: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Bruxells: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Copenaghen: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Montreal: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
New York: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Oslo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Parigi: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Roma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
San Francisco: from 9:00 to 10:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995
San Paolo: from 2:00 to 3:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Santiago: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Sidney: from 4:00 to 5:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995
Stoccolma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Tokio: from 3:00 to 4:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995
Vienna: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Zurigo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
===================================================
LIST 3
*******
Net'Strike home page (da usare per il collegamento):
Net'Strike home page (use to connect):
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NET'STRIKE
NET'STRIKE first hour
21-12-1995
from 6 to 7 p.m. (france hour)
Informations:
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From: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (Tommaso Tozzi)
Subject: Net'Strike - Sciopero della rete
X-Mailer:
NET'STRIKE Sciopero della rete
First hour Prima ora
21-12-1995
dalle 18:00 alle 19:00
from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. (France time zone)
Partecipa al primo sciopero globale della rete Internet
Enjoy the first global strike in Internet
================================================
Attention!!!
You find english translation at the bottom of message!
================================================
Istruzioni per l'uso:
- Diffondi e promuovi questo messaggio.
- a) Il giorno 21-12-1995 dalle 18:00 alle 19:00 (data e ora
cambiano a seconda del fuso orario; consulta la tabella n.2
in fondo al messaggio) collegati ai siti web del governo
francese (vedi elenco indirizzi nella tabella n.1 in fondo al
messaggio, oppure ritaglia e usa l'home page che trovi
nella tabella n.3 in fondo al messaggio).
b) Ripeti l'operazione piu' volte (a intervalli di pochi
secondi) per un'ora.
Una manifestazione di 1000, 10.000, 100.000 utenti
in fila uno dietro l'altro in un corteo globale nei cavi
dei siti internet del governo francese.
Il risultato di tale sciopero sara' quello di paralizzare
per un'ora l'attivita' in rete del governo francese.
BOICOTTIAMO LE ISTITUZIONI GOVERNATIVE FRANCESI!
Il governo francese mostrando un totale disprezzo per il
proprio popolo, per la comunita' internazionale, per la
gente comune che vorrebbe crescere i propri figli in un
mondo migliore:
- prosegue i suoi esperimenti nucleari nel Pacifico;
- continua ad utilizzare il nucleare "civile" come principale
fonte energetica;
- continua a perpetrare i suoi progetti di "ristrutturazione
sociale" nonostante l'eccezionale partecipazione dei
francesi alle manifestazioni di protesta.
Per questo intendiamo togliere, anche se solo parzialmente
e solo per periodi limitati, alle istituzioni governative
francesi i privilegi a cui tanto tengono tutti i potenti, i
signori della guerra, della fame e dell'ingiustizia sociale:
l'accesso ai sempre piu' potenti mezzi comunicativi e ai
canali informativi, quegli stessi privilegi che vengono
negati alla stragrande maggioranza della popolazione
mondiale.
Continueremo le nostre azioni con ogni mezzo necessario,
utilizzando strumenti perfettamente legali, anche se presto
i potenti della Terra, che disprezzano la volonta' dei popoli
dovranno rendersi conto di quanto potenti possano essere
simili mezzi.
Questo e' il primo, ma non sara' l'ultimo degli scioperi
che promuoveremo in rete. Se vuoi essere contattato
per le prossime iniziative spedisci un messaggio al
seguente indirizzo:
Strano.Network@vttvnet.trident.nettuno.it
con subject: Net'Strike
e come testo del messaggio il tuo indirizzo internet
Attacco comunicativo globale - Massive Comunicative Attack
Strano Network
===================================================
English translation
*******************
Instructions:
- Spread this message everywhere
- a) In the date 21/12/1995, 6pm-7pm (day and hour change in relationship to
the time zone, look at the list no. 2 at the
bottom of the message), link to sites of French Government (look at the
list no. 1 or cut and copy the home page of the
list no. 3);
b) reply said procedure several times for an hour by using intervals of few
seconds.
A demonstration of 1000, 10.000, 100.000 netusers all together making part
of a line crossing French Government's sites.
The result of this strike will be to stop for an hour network activities of
French Government.
BOIKOTT THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT'S INSTITUTIONS!.
French Goverment has shown a total contempt for French people, for
international community, for common people who
just would like to grow up their sons in a better world as it:
- goes on with nuclear experiments in Pacific Ocean's islands
- goes on with use of nuclear energy as mainly source of "civil" energy
- goes on with its projects of "social redrawing" without taking into
account the enormous presence of people in recent
demonstrations of protest against such kind of policy.
These are the reasons that drove us to to take off to french government (for
a while...) some of the privileges that every
powerful man involved in war-games and exploitation plans like very much:
The access to the ever growing important
new information media. The same privileges denied to all common people.
We will go on with our demonstrations with any means, using all
technologies, always respecting the law. Those political
fellows which do not take into any account people's needs will understand
very soon the real power of new information
technologies.
This is the first strike that we promote, in the future there will be other
ons. If you want to get informations for next
demonstrations and activities send a message to this address:
Strano.Network@vttvnet. trident.nettuno.it
with subject: Net'Strike
and as content of your message your Internet address
MASSIVE COMMUNICATIVE ATTACK
Strano Network
=====================================================
LIST 1
*******
Elenco dei siti Internet del governo francese:
List of France government Internet Web sites:
Les services Web du Gouvernement Francais
http://www.adit.fr/GOUV/GOUV.html
Le Ministere des Affaires Etrangeres
http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/
Le Ministere de la Culture et de la Francophonie
http://web.culture.fr/
Le Ministere de l'Industrie
http://www.ensmp.fr:80/industrie/
Le Ministere de l'Education Nationale,
de l'Enseignement Superieur, de la Recherche
et de l'Insertion professionnelle
http://www.edutel.fr/
Le Ministere de l'Economie, des Finances
et du plan
http://www.tresor.finances.fr/oat/
Le Ministere de la Sante; publique
et de l'Assurance Maladie
http://www.sante.fr
Electricite de France
http://www.edf.fr/
OECD Nuclear Energy Agency
http://www.nea.fr/
Le serveur WWW de l'Education Nationale
http://www.mesr.fr/
===================================================
LIST 2
*******
Orario e data dello sciopero:
Day and hour of the strike:
Anchorage: from 8:00 to 9:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995
Atene: from 7:00 to 8:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Barcellona: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Belgrado: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Berlino: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Bruxells: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Copenaghen: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Montreal: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
New York: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Oslo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Parigi: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Roma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
San Francisco: from 9:00 to 10:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995
San Paolo: from 2:00 to 3:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Santiago: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Sidney: from 4:00 to 5:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995
Stoccolma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Tokio: from 3:00 to 4:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995
Vienna: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
Zurigo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995
===================================================
LIST 3
*******
Net'Strike home page (da usare per il collegamento):
Net'Strike home page (use to connect):
--------begin cut here :<---------------
NET'STRIKE
NET'STRIKE first hour
21-12-1995
from 6 to 7 p.m. (france hour)
Informations:
-------->: stop cut here ---------------
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Date: 15 Dec 1995 11:21:00
Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat"
From: VANJA.NIKOLIC@ZAMIR-ZG.comlink.apc.org
Subject: hello from Zagreb
To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l
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Hi,
I'm working as a facilitator of the ZAMIR network which connects human
rights, peace, women and ecological groups, as well as some other
alternative groups and individuals trough the BBSs in Zagreb, Pakrac,
Sarajevo, Tuzla, Zenica, Beograd and Pristina.
I'd like to thank to all of you who are sending greetings and best
wishes to people here. I have to inform you that there are more than
1 000 users (not only inidividual) conected on our net, but not too
many who subscribed to apc/zamir/chat conference.
That's probably the reason that you don't get many replyes from these
terirories. The APC conference which most of us follow is:
apc/yugo/antiwar
In a case you have some really urgent and immportant messsages that
you'd like to send to users of our net, please do contact me on
vanja.nikolic@zamir-zg.ztn.apc org.
For your information, zamir users do nothave direct conection with
internet, but we can follow all apc and Hrnet conferences, as well as
some other.
greetings from snowy, freesing Zagreb
Vanja
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