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Hi Ivo,

I don't understand what you mean, or what I should do, when you say my
messages bounced to you.

All the best,

Bob Bennett

Munich

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A Thirty-Day Peace Appeal was launched on Friday, Aug 11.  Each day at the
same time,  concerned people from virtually all faiths have begun a daily
2-minute vigil, prayer, or quite time to send their personal spiritual
energies for healing and peace to come to the Balkans.  In L.A., 12 noon. In
NY, 3pm.  In Sarajevo, 9pm.  The action is daily, through September 11.

During my daily prayer, my thoughts are with People.  People who are
suffering.  People who  are being betrayed by their "leaders".  People to
whom the violence of hatred, bigotry, revenge have consumed their rational
minds, closed their hearts to the healing power of creative, loving forces.
 People who are hurting People.  People who are being hunted and are in great
fear.  By sending our thoughts and prayers every day, at the same time, a
WORLD WAR OF FEROCIOUS COMPASSION has been launched.

While I am not myself an ardent churchgoer of any one faith, I do recognize
an essence of truth in all religions.  I would like to share the opening
invocation that was given at the Los Angeles Interfaith Prayer and Candle
Lighting Service on August 11, 1995 which launched this action for those of
us in the L.A. area.

"Infinite Spirit, bring peace and good will to all peoples.  Direct the
pathway of every nation into unity, happiness and prosperity.  Remove the
thought of fear and greed from the mind of man.

Let every thought of hate be turned to love, every thought of fear be turned
to faith, every thought of doubt be turned to certainty, every thought of war
be turned to peace.  Heal the wounds of the world and bring peace upon the
face of the earth."

--- led by Dr. William Hornaday, Minister Emeritus, Founder's Church of
Religious Science

We are witnessing so much brutality against People right now, it is
mind-numbing.  Mass executions in Srebrinica.  Croats stoning the Krajina
Serbs.  Serbia transporting refugees to new regions for more war.  Serbs
expulling Croats and Muslims from their homes at gunpoint in Banja Luka.
 Gansters and husslers of all nationalities taking over Bihac region with
bounty from looting.  Muslims burning Serb homes in revenge.  Refugees, some
who have been living with no hope, almost no help for over three years are
still suffering.  Children who's faces are those of old men in young bodies.
 Adolescents who are becoming deliquent after years of war and ciminality.
 Families broken.  Old people who had faced the horrors of WWI and WWII as
children, are now ending their lives with tradegy, trauma, loss, fear,
hatred, confusion.  Imagine the broken spirit of these people as the see the
new generation being brought up by fanatical hate and bigotry.  

I ask you today, what is the difference between Croat racism, Serb racism,
Christian racism, Muslim racism, White racism, Hutu racism and all the
others?  Can you actually say one is more justified than the other?

Many persons from former Yugoslavia are behaving as eternal, sworn enemies,
each accusing the other of crimes against humanity and making revenge more
important than justice, hatred more prominent than finding reason and common
ground.  Today, I am saying that there is enough suffering, trechery, trama
and pain for Everyone!  

Please join the world peace appeal and read the prayer above again, in the
silence of your heart.  Let us, the "friends" of the People of the Balkans,
join together. You can help provide the psychic healing that is necessary for
any lasting peace to EVER come.  I hope that you will all join in this 30-day
Peace Appeal every day together, asking God (whoever she might be) to help us
find the light and wisdom we need to live together on this planet.

Nalini Lasiewicz
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Dear President Clinton:

"An intifada in Europe, ultimately," said Yitzhak, an Israeli friend of
mine. I had asked him what he thought the latest American plan for Bosnia
would lead to, if it's true that the plan is supposed to involve a swap of
"land for peace."

I told him I thought it was ridiculous that there could be an "intifada"
in Europe. I reminded him that the Israelis had exchanged land for peace
when they signed an accord with Egypt. And the peace had held for over
twenty years.

"Sure," Yitzhak said, "but we were exchanging Egyptian land for peace,
their territory in the Sinai that we were occupying."

I asked him what the difference was in Bosnia.

He looked at me as if I were simpleminded. "The difference is," he
answered, speaking slowly and clearly, "that you Americans are said to
want the Bosnian government to give up THEIR OWN land in exchange for
peace. The last time that sort of swap was tried was in Czechoslovakia in
1938."

He took a drink of coffee and leaned toward me. "That particular exchange
didn't bring much peace, as I recall."

His friend Miriam, who had just joined us, said, "The Americans can call
it 'land for peace,' if they want, but it's really just appeasement. Let's
say the Bosnian government agrees to hand over territory to this Republika
Srpska, or whatever they call it. How long do you think it will be before
there's an 'Anschluss' between Serbia proper and this 'Republic?'"

"Miriam's right," said Yitzhak, "and you know as well as I do, you can't
appease an aggressor by giving him what he wants. It only makes him hungrier."

So, I asked them, what's the answer?

"At this point," said Miriam, "first of all, the answer is not to allow
borders in Europe to be changed by force. Secondly, the answer is to set
up some kind of federal system, like Switzerland has, within Bosnia, and
within Croatia and Yugoslavia too, if necessary. Thirdly, the UN or some
other organization has to be responsible for a kind of massive reeducation
program, similar in scope to what was done in Germany after World War Two,
a program that will reinforce the innate ability of the Balkan peoples to
live together without fighting."

I asked them what they thought would happen if it's not possible to do that.

"If that's not possible," said Yitzhak, "the alternative is too awful to
even think about."

Sincerely yours,

Robert J. Bennett

Munich


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From: "Ivo Skoric" 
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Punishing all sides involved in the conflict at this point seems 
unfair to majority of folks. Those sides who mostly suffered losses 
in past 5 years of war are probably already punished enough for their 
sins whatever those might have been. World was equally reluctant to 
punish the main perpetrators of present warfare in the Balkans: 
Serbs. Enforcing International Law which would ban warfare requires a 
large commitment of well equipped U.N. ground forces - which none of 
U.N. members was willing to supply to the Balkans. Inetrnational 
community would more rather watch Croats killing Serbs now after 4 
years of Serbs killing Croats, than to watch killing of their own 
offspring. There are things you can't ban by decree. War is one of 
them.

ivo