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It looks as though many readers here miss the point of the issue here. It is not about outstanding warrants, but about the circumvention of the Fourth Amendment. The police or any other law enforcement agency has no right to search without a warrant or to stop individuals, driving or otherwise, without probable cause. I don't think it's prudent to allow police or anyone else to bypass the U.S. Constitution with such obvious tactics.

Of course, it is up to police to catch fugitives, felons, etc., but they must act within the law, not igonre, bypass, or blatantly violate it. Such acts are equally criminal.

Remember driving is still a privilage, not a right, If I were stopped by the police for driving safely so be it, I comply with the laws and have a valid drivers license and no outstanding warrants. Only the criminal has a reason to fear the police.

The cars that are pulled over are probably the ones occupied by minorities. If there is a car filled with white males or females, they probably have a lower chance of getting pulled over. The police force is given too much power in this country and have gotten severly out of hand. If people accept this, it is just another way of violating our rights.

Revolution!

Hey, stupid...at least get your facts straight. Compton has its own police dept.- it is not part of the LAPD. It is a small, well thought of dept., representative of the public it serves. Also, Compton is a city in its own right, not a district of LA. I suppose you would prefer that the police do not try to arrest wanted criminals? Hey...what a great idea...crooks stay home, or you might go to jail!

After listening to the Fuhrman tapes.. watching the Rodney King beating video.. haring the stories of anit-woman and anti-black attitudes that are rife in the LAPD and in police officefrs across the USA how can anyone question the fact that this country is a police state? I expect the reply will be something like; "if you don't like America, leave it" and my reply to that attitude is a quote from Abraham Lincoln when asked what he though og the No-Nothing party of the mid 19th century. He said to the effect.. if one of those people got elected he'd emmigrate from America to a country that doesn't make a pretense out of being free. That country Lincoln said he'd move to was Russia. If the USA wants to throw its own constitution to the dogs (or Pat Buchanan) then they shouldn't make any pretense to this being a free country.

Ben Franklin once said "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." The US once fought a war to keep soldiers and police out of their houses and businesses - look how far we've come.

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Ben Franklin

Suppose that you are on your way to work. Lets even say that this job is very dependant on the fact that you are there on time. Being stopped by the police could possibly jepardize your position at this company. What did this accomplish? Nothing. What did you end up with? Nothing. Ohhh .. A safe drivers certificate. That does not pay the rent. Even though this may be an extreme situation, im sure that this could happen more than once. Was the fact that , lets suppose , 5 criminals were caught outweigh the rights that I gave up. I dont think so. Why should even 1 law abiding citizen have to suffer because of the race to catch the dirtbags??

This is such a blatantly racist policy. It's disgusting and dangerous.

Not only is this policy against our RIGHTS to freedom from unjust searches,and racist also,half of the people that might get arrested from this are wanted on trumped up charges!!

Running your material through a spel cheker mite ad credibillyty. But the message is clear.

A persons right to freedom etc, must be balanced out by the right of every person in society to feel safe and carry out their day to day business in a satisfactory/legal manner. Wether this type of enforcement is justified or not can only be viewed in an historical context. Civil rights are being invaded all over the world, and at a greater more damaging rate than this. Wake Up.

LAPD doesn't work in Comton. Compton has their own police department. Don't you think you're getting a bit too paranoid!

I'm sure *if* the fine citizens of Compton were law abiding citizens they would'nt mind. I guess the moral of the story is DONT HAVE A WARRANT, oh but I guess the upstanding population of the finest city in LA Couny is excluded from being arrested for warrants. They should be happy that the hard working officers are risking thier lives to make the streets of Compton safer. Only a city as currupt and as full of low lifes as Compton would whine about this proactive police work.

Amendment IV 1791 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, Shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

To the author of the article: Where do you live at? I bet its not Compton. I think you should get your facts straight before making statmenets about things you aren't familiar with, especially since it appears you got your information from CNN. The next time you are in Los Angeles, stay in Compton. I think you may have an eye opening experience and would be glad that the police are stopping you, and not someone else...

When are the minorities residing in the US going to rise up and cut off the head of the monster that contiously attacks them. The Police in the guise of a law enforcement agency actually is an occupying army in underclass neighborhoods. Police are design to keep the "savages" in their piece of ghetto land away from the ruling class. The Police are not even part of that ruling class they just get paid to keep the underclass under control, keep the stench of crime, poverty, rage, helplesness away, out of sight of those who have the ability to pay the Police to act as a buffer.

I must agree that the stopping of motorists without probable cause should not take place. However, if a motor vehicle violations occurs (no matter how slight), the police have the duty and right to investigate for any outstanding warrants. I think that blaming the police for the problems in society is a childish thing to do. They got a job to do, let them perform their duty.

Fuck you pathetic excuses for people!!! The police do a fine job everyday. You are making fools of yourselves in your imagined battle. I'll bet that none of you have ever done anything difficult in your lives. Instead of criticizing the police, why don't you recognize officers who are going beyond the call of duty to provide good service to you? You're all sorry, immature ignorant people who don't deserve the freedoms you have been GIVEN in this country. GET A LIFE!!! If you want to hate cops, go to China, they'll give you a reason to hate! I hope that nothing REALLY bad ever happens to you all---you'll just fall to pieces, you weaklings.

Wait until I arrest you. Come down to Georgia. I guarantee that we (black, white, Asian, Hispanic or other) officers will never cut you snivelling pukes any slack. The creators of this page are an example of typical wimps. We'll introduce you to GEORGIA JUSTICE. We don't play. See you at the Olympics, you flimsies!!!-----Lt. Harvey, Savannah, Ga. P.D.

This sounds like one of thier usual tricks. I always get suspicious though when there is bad info in a story. Why is LAPD in Compton. Compton is a city and has thier own police department.

THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE EDITORS OF THESE TYPES OF ARTICLES WHO REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS A STRONG OPINION ABOUT THE TACTICS THAT WE USE YOU DONT EVEN KNOW THAT COMPTON HAS ITS OWN POLICE DEPT.YOUR PROBABLY CRYING BECOUSE YOU HAVE GOT A WARRANT OUR YOU CAN NO LONGER SMOKE YOUR BLUNTS IN THE CAR WITHOUT ME DETECTING IT .

geez try to do something nice for a change

Great way to make the streets safe so the little kiddies can play in safety. Can't have reckless drivers all over the place.

Speak Up! >As far as I'm concerned, it's not just the people of Compton that "deserve this". But in most cases, those with >outstanding warrants to which they have not responded do deserve it. I would not object in the slightest if such a >program were in place in my home town, and I will take my chances with the rest. At first they held roadbocks so they can catch the "fugitives" We all needed to feel safe from them anyways, so I didn't speak up. Then they censored the media I didn't pay too much attention to the news anyways, so I didn't speak up. Then they imposed a evening curfew on children My nieghbors kids should be at home at 10pm where it's safe, so I didnt speak up. Then they restricted the content of free speech I felt insulted at some of the stuff the extremists were propagandizing anyways so I didn't speak up. Then they imposed restrictions on what type of weapons we could own I felt assault weapons were a menance to society so I didn't speak up. Then they came for me and there wasn't anyone left to speak up.

Speak Up! >As far as I'm concerned, it's not just the people of Compton that "deserve this". But in most cases, those with >outstanding warrants to which they have not responded do deserve it. I would not object in the slightest if such a >program were in place in my home town, and I will take my chances with the rest. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| At first they held roadbocks so they can catch the "fugitives".| We all needed to feel safe from them anyways, so I didn't speak up.| Then they censored the media.| I didn't pay too much attention to the news anyways, so I didn't speak up.| Then they imposed a evening curfew on children.| My nieghbors kids should be at home at 10pm where it's safe, so I didnt speak up.| Then they restricted the content of free speech.| I felt insulted at some of the stuff the extremists were propagandizing anyways so I didn't speak up.| Then they imposed restrictions on what type of weapons we could own.| I felt assault weapons were a menance to society so I didn't speak up.| Then they came for me and there wasn't anyone left to speak up. |

I am presently doing a paper about injustices by the police department and am continually searching for new information. I am from Canada and am amazed at the wealth of information I have obtained Thenk you for displaying the injustices inflicting your neighbourhood. Keep it up there are many appreciative readers out there.

Numbnuts! the city of Compton is patrolled by the Compton Police Dept. not the LAPD. You really need to do a little research before posting fictitious stories such as this. Remember the old adage "It's better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"

I think this is just another racist act of the LAPD. This has nothing to do with driving and everything to do with getting black people into jail. The police will also make false convictions and pull anyting so they can put away the magority of Compton in the hole. I have also noticed have they only put white cops on the street. Wizz Fizz

Who cares if you have "been" to LA. You don't really know how it is unless you have lived there. The crime in Compton is rediculous. The city has just over 90,000 people and averages over 80 homicides a year. That is over 4 times the homicide rate of LA. I think that if you actually lived in the city, you would be happy that the police were trying to do something about the crime in a pro-active fashion. I also question how much you know about the situation since you don't know that Compton has it's own police department and is not even patrolled by LAPD.

This article reminded me just how much I DON'T miss living in LA. I honestly can't recall just how many times I was pulled over because I had long hair and drove a beat up car. A nice place to visit -- but you wouldn't want to live there. Trust me.

I really get tired of hear that "honest people have nothing to fear" crap! As a Los Angeles resident, I take great offense at this obvious violation of civil rights-- but, then again, this is LA. Oh, by the way, I haven't noticed this same program being implemented in Beverly Hills... Can you spell Gestapo?

These people with outstanding warrants deserve to go to jail nomatter what way the police seem to find them. Are you saying that these criminals should not go to jail for the crimes that they have committed. If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about. These criminals should not be able to walk on the streets even if they live in Compton. Do you feel that Compton is some kind of special area that criminals should roam the streets?

Fuck tha Police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHECK YOUR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR. YOUR LACK OF INTELLIGENT COMMUNICATION CAUSES READERS TO ASSUME THAT YOUR MESSAGE IS JUST AS FLAWED AS YOUR WRITING.

Wake up and look at what is happening in our mobile society with an unbiased view. People are being shot and killed by other drivers for making judgement errors. Cars are used for transporting drugs to uneducated and misled children. Drivers "under the influence" are rolling merrily along on public-use streets, adding to the carnage daily. Maybe the next drunk driver will hit YOU, or your loved one, or maybe that driver is YOU... The LAPD is responsible to protect and serve, whether we want it or not. If you don't want to get arrested, then don't think or act like a criminal.

Wake up and look at what is happening in our mobile society with an unbiased view. People are being shot and killed by other drivers for making judgement errors. Cars are used for transporting drugs to uneducated and misled children. Drivers "under the influence" are rolling merrily along on public-use streets, adding to the carnage daily. Maybe the next drunk driver will hit YOU, or your loved one, or maybe that driver is YOU... The police are responsible to protect and serve, whether we want it or not. If you don't want to get arrested, then don't think or act like a criminal.

fuck you

I am amased at the thoughtful expressions and insights to this article that is being posted around the world for all to see. If I were in china, russia, bolivia, iran, turky, most of africa or any other police state I wouldn't know if this article was from my country, talking about my tax paid police force or maybe from some other place that was just a little bit more backward than we were. I've never lived in Compton, but I have worked there as a city bus driver. I lived in the Melrose district and started my bus run from Beverly Hills and drove to Santa Monica and ended up in Compton in the early hours of the morning. the people were absoultly no different there (Compton) than they were any other place on my bus route, except maybe they were just a little bit more helpful, had to be at work just a little bit earlier and didn't have so many white colar criminils as the rest of my route. Isn't that what were talking about? Finding a certain type of criminal using (or missusing, in this case) a law for the people, by the people against the people, in this case people of color. As citizens all of us (including police) should emblazon, read, and memorize the message that started this country off on its adventure, the words of BENJAMAN FRANKLIN. Don't get caut up in the petty-stuff, REMEMBER THE MESSAGE. AL at sunrise@whidbey.com

A tell you something that black/white people are to be treated equally. Because in compton some cops don't just judge us black people because they think that all black people are criminals . Well let me tell you something there wrong . So all ocops that are like that go fuck your dog

But you did not say that they were being searched , just had names run for outstanding warrents.. there is crim everywere something needs to happen to stop it.. then you said about only being done in the minority distric. well it has nothing to do with color it has to do with crime rates. so before you judge get all the facts or write more on the issue to make your point clear. because now you are judging them when you don't like the judgment of others.

CukooNest@hotmail.com By the number of pro=kkkop people on this page, we can see just how many racists there are in US Long live the revolution!

Is the fist on the top of this page a communist symbol? Just curious in case anyone can answer that.

Is the fist on the top of this page a communist symbol? Just curious in case anyone can answer that.

LAY BACK AND ENJOY THE POLICE STATE

HEY THEY ARE PIGS, THATS DOING THE BIDING OF THE A REPESSIVE STATE

YOU WANT TP FIND OUT WHAT THE AVERAGE WHITE POLICE THINK OF BLACK GO TO 1ST PCT NYPD FOLDER 2, THE AVERAGE WHITE POLICE HATE BLACK PEOPLE WITH A PERFECT HATE, DONT GET INTO NOTHING WITH THEM THE POWERS HAVE GIVEN THEM THE OKAY TO MURDER YOU.

My impression is that this sort of "random stops" has previously been held illegal in the courts. Police previously pulled random drivers for sobriety tests. Lawsuits alleged the stops were illegal because they tended to stop minorities. They could set up roadblocks where they stopped every driver, or every other driver, or every fifth driver, or something otherwise mathematical, but not "random stops". I would think the same thing would apply here. -Jim (not a lawyer)

The United States is fast becoming a POLICE STATE: If that NAZI, JANET RENO, had her way, she and her select friends would be the only people in this country with any rights or freedom. The legal system in this country has already gone to Hell, it is just a matter of time before the Government open clamps down with Martial Law on everybody just for general principles.

I HAVE SAT HERE READING OVER SOME OF THESE LETTERS AND I THANK GOD I LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN AWAY FROM YOU PEOPLE. WE LOVE THE PROTECTION THAT IS PROVIDE FOR US. WE ALSO THANK THEM FOR PUTTING THIER LIFE ON THE LINE VERY DAY. I HAVE BEEN STOPPED IN THE MANNER YOU TALK ABOUT, BUT BECAUSE I KNEW THEY WERE LOOKING FOR BAD PEOPLE IT DIDN'T MATTER TO ME.

IT APPEARS THAT THE OFFICERS INITIATED A PROGRAM THAT BOTH PROMOTES SAFE DRIVING AND ALSO REMOVES CRIMINALS FROM A DANGEROUS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ONLY COMPLAINT WOULD BE FROM A CRIMINAL. KUDOS

Please help! A San Diego Sheriff officer named Richard Eaton killed my son. I am told that this officer came from somewhere back east. If anyone has any information of his prior whereabouts or why he left his last police job please email me at rrhallam@fda.net Thank you.

Of these random acts of pulling drivers, how many times is the police officer of a different race than the driver?

Of these random acts of pulling drivers over, how many times is the police officer of a different race than the driver? E-mail me back at longctob@aquinas.edu

Good for the cops. At least they are trying to clean up the streets and make life hard for the punks.

Hey F Lee Bailey, if you had your facts right you would know that Compton is its own incorporated city therefor not part of Los Angeles. I know that's not the point you are trying to make but if you are going to bitch about something, know what you are talking about. By the way, if YOU have a warrant for your arrest, STAY OFF THE STREET. I always thought that arresting fugitives was one the things we paid police officers to do. Quit crying.

A police "stop" of the type that you describe on this page would be quite questionable. While courts have allowed some leniency to police in its efforts to deal w/ the problem of DUI...see Michigan State Polive vs. Sitz, 496 U.S. 444 (1990) or at other "fixed point" inspections (see Delaware vs. Prouse, 440 US 647 (1979) other stops must be predicated upon some kind of individualized "reasonable suspicion." Courts do not, as a general rule, appreciate the sense of humor it takes to explain the "pre-text" you have described here with a straight face! Organizations such as the ACLU should be able to deal with this quite easily! I find it strange that an agency as large as this would have the time it would take to operate such a "program." Uniformed Patrol generally stays far too busy to follow such a program for very long, even if they were so inclined! As a former police officer, I must ask if you are certain about the facts here. As a lawyer, now, I must tell you that a trip or two into the US District Court could stop this procedure quite easily.

What a great way to clean up the streets and reward the good people with something at the same time. Hurray for the Los Angeles Police Department for taking a proactive stance against crime.

THIS IS A RIDICULOUS AND CREDULOUS ACT. THERE IS A SEVERE ISSUE CONCERNING COPS AND RACIAL, AGE AND SEXUAL ORRIENTATION DISCRIMINATION. THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGGENCY OF LA IS BUILING A STEREOTYPICAL WALL AND A CONSTITUAIONAL BLINDER THAT PEOPLE WILL CONFORM TO BECAUSE TO FIGHT AGAINST SUCH A POWER IS A WASTE OF TIME. THESE ARE THE SMALL THINGS WE LET COPS GET AWAY WITH, WHICH IN TURN MAKE IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO FIGHT THE LARGER ISSUES.

I am a cop, been one for seven years, if you do not have probable cause, or a reasonable, "articulate"suspicion, to stop a vehicle, then every thing past that is a mute point, because you will lose it in court. If you can't find a valid reason to stop the car, they'll be back tomorrow, try again. And how does serving arrest warrants become racist? If you will take a look in your garbage can at home, you will see that there are all of the colors of the rainbow in there. I like this site.

It is sad to see that people here would actually defend this. I find it hard to believe you wouldn't care about being stopped for no reason at all. Do you have a job??? Maybe it is ok for you to be late to work, but for most working people in this country it isn't. This is an OBVIOUS way of getting around constitutional rights. That is ok with you??? Sad, very sad.

It's just like police to target the minority classes, I hope that one day people will be able to see for themselves the things that really go on in the world!

First off, Compton is it's own City. LAPD does not patrol Compton. Get your story correct before you post it. Stop smoking crack.

WE NEED A SOCIALIST REVOLUTION TO THROW OFF THE YOKE OF THE FASCIST POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!

What we need in this nation is for the general public to review the Constitutional laws and Bill of Rights! We live in A police State ,if you support the Police ,then you do not realise you are supporting the N.W.O.and the U.N. We operate under color of LAW,this (LT Harvey/Savannal GA/PD? if he is real? he is nothing more then an arrogant gestopo PIG! If you cop lovers don't realise that this is exactly the kind of callous remarks that will keep the public and the Police divided! They are not above the LAW,and when we allow them to circumvent,the due process of the constitutional protected rights ,in order to catch a few felons ,we all lose.You people who say if you have done nothing wrong ,you have nothing to fear,have never been arrested ,and never gone threw the in-justice system have you? Your day is coming ,when you will be arrested by your friendly ,gestopo for speaking your thoughts.

What we need in this nation is for the general public to review the Constitutional laws and Bill of Rights! We live in A police State ,if you support the Police ,then you do not realise you are supporting the N.W.O.and the U.N. We operate under color of LAW,this (LT Harvey/Savannal GA/PD? if he is real? he is nothing more then an arrogant gestopo PIG! If you cop lovers don't realise that this is exactly the kind of callous remarks that will keep the public and the Police divided! They are not above the LAW,and when we allow them to circumvent,the due process of the constitutional protected rights ,in order to catch a few felons ,we all lose.You people who say if you have done nothing wrong ,you have nothing to fear,have never been arrested ,and never gone threw the in-justice system have you? Your day is coming ,when you will be arrested by your friendly ,gestopo for speaking your thoughts.

Oh, yeahsureright, overthrow the government and police. Then what? Then you will be able to murder, rape, rob, burglarize and hurt anyone you want! Why don't more minorities join the police dept. thereby changing it and exposing and weeding out the so-called racist pigs?..or is it more comfortable to sit around and complain because you aren't organized enough not only to overthrow the government but to run it correctly once you did? Perhaps you can suggest, along with the good driver's certificate, the receipient can register their vehicle next year for free!

For the author's information, L.A.P.D. officers do not patrol the streets of Compton, Ca. The city of Compton has it's own police officers, who I understand, do a pretty fine job with what they have to work with. I live in a pretty decent city, and running drivers for warrants is s.o.p. here as well. What the heck is a "save" award anyway? I belive the word the author was grasping for is SAFE. Can you say "SPEL CHEK''

SOUTH CENTRAL IS A FUCKIN SHIT HOLE, WE SHOULD DROP A BOMB ON EVERY GHETTO JUST LIKE SOUTH CENTRAL, AND THE CRIME RATE WOULD DROP. IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE WORTHLESS,WELFARE TAKEN NIGGERS IN SOUTH CENTRAL L.A. IT MIGHT NOT BE A BAD PLACE. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DEATH SQUADS FOR PLACES LIKE THAT, JUST LIKE THE BRAZILLIANS DO.

It is actaully quite simple, yes directly is does violate the fourth amendment. Citizens are protected against unreasonable searches. Now the key word there is "unreasonable" in court possibly being in Compton could be enough reason to pull someone over, but i highly doubt it. Whether or not a majority of the people driving in Compton are felons with warrants unless they break the law they should not be subject to being pulled over, unless every other city complies to the same rules, which of course wouldn't happen. Police could try to got the route of saying that they were profiling the vehicles, but again if my memory serves me right profiling is illegal deemed by the supreme court in 1992. This is a clear violation of the citzens of comptons rights. When and if this is brought to court it will bee over-ruled.

This not only goes against everything America stands for, it is a nazi trick that is used by a government to suppress it's people. If the cops are allowed to do this what next. The government is using this as a sham to erode another of our rights away. Our founding fathers are turning over in their graved as this country is turning into a police state. Be warey of a government that is afraid of it's own people. Before any right wing nazies do this WE THE PEOPLE...should say NO>

I was a merchant in Nazi Germany when they came for the Irish, but I did nothing. I was not Irish. The next day they came for homeless, but I did nothing. I was not homeless. The next day they came for the Blacks, but I was not black so I said nothing. The next day they came for the Cathlics, but I said nothing. I was not Cathlic and I did nothing. The Next day they came for the students, butI was not a student so I said nothing. Yesterday they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I said nothing. I was not a Jew. Today they came for me and there was nobody left to say or do anything. Remember every right we have in our country is bought and payed for by the blood of our people. If the police take away the constitutional rights of just one of us they have spit in the face of every soldier who fought and died for our country. They should not pull us over without cause or because of our race. I am a decorated Vietnam Veteran and I call this trashing of our rights as Americans TREASON!!

In my opinion, the traffic stop is like the new frontier of police action against citizens. Police can and will stop vehicles for no reason at all, and once they have done this, they're free to subtly force their way into searching the vehicle. All a cop has to do is say that you were speeding or committing some other unprovable offense in order to pull you over. Then your rights disappear. He can then search the car for whatever reason, and take a wild guess what happens if you exercise your rights and refuse. You instantly become a suspect. By using your rights, you have become an alleged criminal. This seems like some kind of gray area where cops have no rules and we have no rights.

You're an idiot. Compton is an incorporated city and the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) has absolutely nothing to do with traffic enforcement in the city of Compton. The city of Los Angeles instituted the program you're referring to in the West L.A. area (primarily white and affluent). The city of Compton Police Department has no such "safe driver" program. You need to get your facts straight if you don't want to sound like the fool that you are.

So if you have a warrant you shouldn't go to jail? Pull me over and give me a safe drivers certificate, I have nothing to hide>>>

Some idiot (from AOL, surprise!) said "Only the criminal has a reason to fear the police." Tell that to the unarmed, unresisting victims of murderous pigs.

The lack of concern for our rights by all the pro-cop posters I see here and elsewhere is disgusting, but not surprising. It's why the police in America are doomed.

-steve (www.copkiller.org)

Just so that you know, the LAPD does not patrol Compton. Compton has it's very own police department, and the LAPD has no need to be in that city. It would appear that your information is false

Fo real tho!

Kill the bougeoisie scum !! Kill the crackers!!

Jesus Christ some of you people are fvcking morons. It seems as if you LIKE living in a police state. It's utter madness for the police to pull you over for no reason. Don't you see what's happening? Our liberties are gone already and there isn't even any pretense to it. This sickens me. It's coming into crunch time and you don't even care. Do you know about this: -H.R. 2987 " a provision which will authorize federal agents to stealthily enter people's homes, search the homes, and not tell anyone" -H.R. 2987 Do you understand why this is happening? Because jelly-brains like some of YOU embrace this tyrannical government's tactics. What's wrong with you?

LAW ABIDING CITIZENS USEALLY DON'T MIND THESE TYPES OF TRAFFIC STOPS WHEM THERE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG. PERSONNLY I THINK IT'S GREAT. SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T GO STRICTLY BY THE BOOK. (4TH AMENDMENT)

LAPD does NOt have juristiction in Compton... Compton had a police department.. but the CPD(compton PD)cold not handle the crime there..so now Los Angeles Sherrif Dpt is incharge of that area..

It's not illegal to stop people at random...for example the DUI chechkpoints that are put up on the 4TH of July, these are perfectly legal posts that stop people at raandom to check for drunk drivers. You are stopped at random, a few questions are asked, and you are let go if you are not drunk. These checkpoints are also advertised on television, so that the public will know they areout there. The public advertisement is a deterant so people will not drink and drive. The "random" stops are also advertised to motorists so that they will take care of their outstanding warrants (i,e NO BAIL Assault With Deadly Weapon Charges, Possess. of Narcotic for Sales warrants).

I'm not too sure what your web site is about. Do you have a point. I have been to Watts and Compton so i am aware of what goes on and how the people of those areas are exploited. The easiest thing for you guys to do is to find some sort of agreement and stop smokeing the chronic

this isn't a matter of wether or not this program will help catch more crimminals, i'm sure it would. and i'm sure the city of compton would be a better place for the program, racism or no. what this is a matter of is wether we want to begin giving our freedom away little by little to gain more security. i can't say wether or not the people of this country would be better off if we gave up more and more rights that are protected under the constitution in order to better catch crimminals, but i do know (and i am saying this having never been a crimminal, or having so much as a parking ticket) that I would be less happy living in that society than the one i live in today.

I thought compton was a sheriff jurisdiction... can you say ROUST??? THAT IS WHAT IT IS! This is not too new i guess they have been doing it for a while... but now they just have a fancy name for it! Here in my town they pull you over and search the whole car and dont give you a ticket ... so they cant e acused of harrasment! so if they pull you over demand your ticket... yeah yeah sounded good didn't it! you cant win ... the only way to avoid this is to not have get warrent! Believe me I have tried to fight the law ... AND THE LAW WON... LACE

If you don't have warrants, you shouldn't be worried.

I think if this program was properly run, and random cars were stopped, say every 3rd or 5th car that passed, then there shouldn't be a problem. Police Officers have a tough enough job, without everybody "monday morning quartebacking" them.

In order to pull a vehicle over there has to be reasonable suspicion to detain. A vehicle pullover is basically a detention, and when a detention takes place the officer can run an 11-29 (local check for wants on that particular driver. If vehicles are just being pulled over at random without RS (unless it is a DUI checkpoint, etc.), then I think there is a violation of the 4th amendment. But if the officer runs a license plate check while driving behind the vehicle, and upon receiving info discovers that the owner of that vehicle has a 4th waiver (parolee, probation) then he can be pulled over, and be run for any warrants. Even his vehicle can be searched without PC (probable cause.

You just have to live in so.cal,and drive a not so good car,or motorcycle.Be a young male.And regaurdless of race,you will be pulled over for something,I was born and raised in L.A and orange county,and after 34 years,moved away,left family and friends,and have,and will not return.It is more of a class(Money) thing,than a racial thing, and if you live in,or are around an area the police deem to be low class,high crime,ect,That is all they need as justifacation.Search and seizure rights are a joke there,especially,orange county.I have been beaten(first time 16 years old)Pulled over(suspicion of?)strip searched in the street,had guns drawn on me.The police there are totally out of control.I left for fear of my life(Freedom had been taken away many times)If you have any type of police record,and you get stopped,you have a better than average of chance of getting abused,insulted,ect.Look up the case of Diana Deaner(or Deamer)in the 80'S in orange county,and of all the jail deaths O.C.in the 80's Rob Irvin,Georgia

man...after reading some of the responses on this topic, i come o realize how dumb and stupid these so called "good citizens" are...these fucking sheeps have been brainwashed to think that they are being protected and are safe as long as the obey the laws...WAKE UP!!! and take a minute to think of what kind of people live in compton?....the colored people of course...if they really wanted to award people for good driving why dont they use this tactic in areas where the white folks live too? they only use this award tactic in compton because its the only way they can get away with harrassing people and get way with it...fucking pigs!!! where the hell were they when whte people breaks the law?

The Fourth Amendment is to protect normal people from being treated like criminals. My High School Government teacher said that it is crucial to our civil rights for the police to not be TOO effective. When they are too effective, normal law abiding citizens get the shaft one way or another.

And at the same time the consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival. -- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

You are such as dumb ass! LAPD does not patrol compton, LA Sheriff patrols it now.

Wow What a great program. I myself (NOT being a drug using/selling , shoplifting, robber, burglar, civil disobeying, pyscopathic killer, Liberal , ACLU calling , whining , sniviling loser) would have no problem being pulled over by the fine officers of the COMPTON POLICE DEPT , (Not LAPD or LASO stupid!) I would be getting a safe driver certificate because I comply with the law. GOD BLESS ALL POLICE OFFICERS

Crime is rampant. Why would you be so against putting criminals with active warrants in "the big house"? The end result is if a defense attorney gets a guilty man off the hook he's smart, if law enforcement agencies employ the same tactics ....it is a violation of rights. I will bet you won't show this on your website simply because I don't subscribe to your views.

I think that is very wrong, that cops are allowed to do that! We, as Americans have certian righs that can not be taken from us and this story is an obvious example of BULLSHIT! Police are just normal Americans with the same right as the rest of us, nobody ever gave them the right to to mistreat us

I think that is very wrong, that cops are allowed to do that! We, as Americans have certian righs that can not be taken from us and this story is an obvious example of BULLSHIT! Police are just normal Americans with the same right as the rest of us, nobody ever gave them the right to to mistreat us

u guys suck,get a real job

Gun registration is a major step towards communism. Anyone intending on using a gun for crime, doesn't care wether or not the gun is registered. Being shot by a registered or unregistered gun brings the same conclusion.

yes,it is true,i do think certain races are singled out,if it be a traffic violation or shoplifting.i am a white male,and i do have a lot of great friends from all races,and yes i do see the difference in treatment.but,what a lot of people dont see is the real picture.example,im a white guy walking into a liquor store,i look like trailer trash,my chances of being thought of as a theif are very high,but if i walk into a liquor store in a 3 piece suit,hell i would probably get the bottle of boones for free,lol.you see its not about color so much as it is about poor verses rich,and yes i know if a cop seen a btother in a lexus,the cop would think it was stolen,and he would find out that the car really belonged to the brother,and the he would apologize and all that b.s..so you see,its about who has the franklins and who doesnt!!!

Perhaps because a disproportionate number of those same drivers are the ones with the outstanding arrest warants???????

In Milwaukee. Wisconsin the police department's officers are not permitted to stop and search cars without probable cause. Therefore the sheriff's department has taken over the job of stopping cars for "minor traffic violations" and asking for consent to search. If the driver refuses to give his or her consent to search, the sheriff's special black uniform officers search the vehicle anyway. This is currently taking place in mostly Black and Hispanic supposedly high crime areas of Milwaukee.

I have a simple solution to the problems they are exp[erienciong in Compton with the police pulling over cars and doing wanted checks on the occupants. The chances are 99 % to 1 % that if you are not a thug, you will not go to jail, so stop breaking the law and please stop killing, assaulting and robbing each other. Sounds pretty simple to me...

You're right. The NAZI state's getting out of had. You're not considered a "criminal" because you're a BAD guy, you're a "criminal" if you "break the law". And if they (ruling class, police, government) don't like you, they'll just harrass you enough to "force" you to break the law, and you still won't break the law, then they'll "pass" a law to make your everyday activity "illegal." Especially if you're poor and don't have money to fight back, they know they can destroy you simply by framing you with trumped up charges. Hey, I know what I'm saying cause I was arrested on a year-old civil contempt charge warrant (it wasn't even a "criminal" offense!!) which my enemies surreptitiously kept alive beyond its purpose (they told me they withdrew the charges, but they LIED) Since the police arrested me on a Friday evening,I ended up spending 4 days in prison, while the lawyer went to court to do the proper paperwork to get me out, since I was ARRESTED BY MISTAKE. Meanwhile, because of this whole mess, my infant son was taken by Child Protective Service for 4 days and I spent 1 day in holding tank, 1 day in transport, and 2 of my 4 days in MAXIMUM SECURITY prison!! The police's justification for my solitary confinement was "we're keeping you away from the CRIMINALS". WAKE UP! EVERYONE. We ARE living in a police state; if they don't like you, they'll find a way to lock you up and destroy your life!! (By the way, this happened in Los Angeles......everybody, RUN!!!)

i know people that know cops that have admitted to beating up black people in newark because they knew the black people wouldnt stay in jail

when you see flasing lights behind you and hear sirens AIM FOR THE HEAD!!!

I think this is an outstanding example of proactive policing and should be in effect in every state and community. If you cannot do the time dont do the crime. It is time that criminal stop hiding behind broad and unrealistic thoughts regarding civil liberties. the public should support efforts to rid the streets of that element that is praying on common sense.

"I think this is an outstanding example of proactive policing and should be in effect in every state and community. If you cannot do the time dont do the crime" "Proactive policing"? You mean, violation of Civil Rights through profiling? With the Patriot Act in effect, any arrest can be deemed an act of terrorism. Caught with pot? Well, the terrorista are funded through drug sales, therefore you are supporting them by partaking and you are a terrorist, a crime against the USA, the charge would be treason to be exact. I imagine you'll be bunking at Guantanamo Bay, but we'll never really know. This is nothing short of nationalism, fascism and like in Animal Farm (and nazi Germany), the pigs are not the smartest animals, but they're running the farm. "All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others" George Orwell

I fuking meant

this is the most borrrrrring web page in whole fucking world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure they know what they are doing!

SEPT. 4, 2004. ANOTHER TACTIC USED BY DIRTY COPS IS THE "3-DAY FORCED PSYCHIATRIC HOLD" AKA 5150. THE DIRTY COPS USE THE WORD "3-DAY HOLD" TO BAMBOOZLE, COERCE YOU. IT IS A FRIGTENING POLICE POWER TO SMEAR AND SILENCE.

SEPT. 4, 2004. ANOTHER TACTIC USED BY DIRTY COPS IS THE "3-DAY FORCED PSYCHIATRIC HOLD" AKA 5150. THE DIRTY COPS USE THE WORD "3-DAY HOLD" TO BAMBOOZLE, COERCE YOU. IT IS A FRIGHTENING POLICE POWER TO SMEAR AND SILENCE.

Well,You are talking about A crime,Drug,Homocide and prostitution enfested area.This is what negro areas are becoming!!!!

For criticism to be taken seriously, it must be researched and not based on rumors. This in rife with flaws: no such program exists, and Compton is not Los Angeles. They are two separate municipalities. Compton used to have it's own department, now the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deparment patrols it.

People have warrants for a reason. It's because they committed a crime not because there rich or poor. I feal a cop should be able to pull people over for any reason. If your not doing anything wrong then who cares.

I wonder why the Gardena PD has not setup a similar program?

dont break the law

Compton is patrolled by the Los Angeles sheriff's Department, not the Los Angeles police.