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From notes@igc.apc.org Thu Mar 14 17:37:47 1996 Received: from igc5.igc.apc.org (192.82.108.36) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:37:48 -0500 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (cdp.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.1]) by igc5.igc.apc.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13507; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:20:07 -0800 (PST) Date: 14 Mar 1996 14:05:44 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat"From: kajosevi@newschool.edu Subject: Open letter to the Croatian public -Forwarded To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 101 From: INDIRA KAJOSEVIC Subject: Open letter to the Croatian public -Forwarded Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (cdp.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.1]) by igc5.igc.apc.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA06653; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:06:06 -0800 (PST) Date: 14 Mar 1996 07:58:26 Reply-To: Conference "women.east-west" From: CENTRIC_BG@ZAMIR-BG.ztn.apc.org Subject: Open letter to the Croatian public To: Recipients of conference Message-ID: <64lJGiQQaSB@pb-girls.zamir-bg.ztn.apc.org> X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-women-east-west@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 85 From: CENTRIC_BG@ZAMIR-BG.ztn.apc.org (S.O.S. and Centre for Girls) ## Nachricht vom 13.03.96 weitergeleitet ## Ursprung : ywd@ywd.antenna.nl ## Ersteller: CENTRIC_BG@ZAMIR-BG.ztn.apc.org OPEN LETTER TO THE CROATIAN PUBLIC As activists of Belgrade's non-governmental women's organizations, interested in the development and support of E-mail communication, on February 21, 1996 we received invitation letters from the Women's Informational Documentation Center, Zagreb (Women's Infoteka) by whom we were invited to a seminar on electronic communication (E-mail) for facilitators and system operators on the local BBS (Bulletin Board System) centers, which was held in Zagreb from March 8 - 10, 1996. The seminar took place in collaboration with the women's foundation of the German Green Party (FrauenAnstiftung) from Hamburg. Having taken these invitation letters to the Croation Bureau in Belgrade we received information that these invitation letters must be refered to the Croatian Ministry of Internal Affairs - Department of Border Police, which is what the organizers of the Women's Infoteka did. On February 27, 1996 the organizers were verbally informed about the refusal of the request for issue of the permit for our entry into the Republic of Croatia; on March 1, 1996 an official fax arrived at the Women's Infoteka which read: "Dear Mrs. Damjanovic, Regarding your request, by which you are seeking the possibility for entry into the Republic of Croatia as representatives who have been invited to take part in your seminar from the so-called Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, we inform you that you need to address yourselves to the Embassy of the Republic of Croatia in Hungary, in order to receive confirmation for issue of a border pass. Respectfully Yours, Chief Council Ivan Babic" This fax was immediately forwarded to us on March 1st, 1996. Because the closest Embassy of the Republic of Croatia (in Hungary) is more then 400 km from our place of residence or six and half hours driving (assuming no delays on the border) and costs around 200 dinars (which is more than half the average monthly salary in FRY) and because we had absolutely no guarantee that we would get border passes in Budapest which would incur further expenses for lodging. Therefore we decided to address this issue to Helsinki Committee, which otherwise acts as an intermediary in any kind of communication with the Croatian office in Belgrade. What followed was a sign of overpoliticized bureaucratic communication of mutually unrecognized states. Every day from March 4-8, 1996, the lawyer from Helsinki Committee, Biljana Stanojevic, requested information about the approval of our entry into the Republic of Croatia from the Consul, Mr. Zelic of the Croatian embassy in Hungary and Mr. Davor Vidis from the Croatian Bureau in Belgrade. Mr. Zelic's constant reply during these five days was to contact him two hours later because he had not yet received information from Zagreb. On March 7, 1996 at 1:00pm the organizers in Zagreb received information by telephone from an employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs-Croatia that we had been approved for entry into the Republic of Croatia but the information obviously never officially reached neither Consul Zelic in Budapest nor Mr. Vidis in Belgrade. Extending the interruption of communication, impossibility for the exchange of information and experiences of citizens and civil groups who live in similar regime surroundings will not lead to a change in relations which brought us to war and which will not build a basis for a civil society which respects human rights. Dr. Zarana Papic-Center for Women's Studies and Communication Marija Vidic-Autonomous Women's Center Against Sexual Violence Violeta Krasnic-SOS Hotline for Women and Children Victims of Violence Natasa Milenkovic-SOS Hotline and Center for Girls ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## From tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Thu Mar 14 17:40:55 1996 Received: from mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (149.139.2.22) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:40:58 -0500 Received: from slip1.idg.fi.cnr.it by mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA02306; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:36:41 GMT Message-Id: <9603142336.AA02306@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it> X-Sender: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:28:39 -0500 To: sikoras@aol.com, simone@cimsi.cim.ch, sj@mediafilter.escape.com, sj@MediaFilter.org, slapic@caesar.elte.hu, soapbox@well.com, soapbox@well.sf.ca.us, spiel@khm.Uni-Koeln.DE, squall@phreak.intermedia.co.uk, SSansavi@vttv.dada.it From: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (Tommaso Tozzi) Subject: strano network new url X-Mailer: Il nuovo indirizzo web di Strano Network e': http://www.dada.it/stranet/ All'interno una sintesi della bbs Virtual Town TV (Idee in movimento, Strano Mondo, arte, video,...) e alcune migliaia di links con cio' che c'e' di meglio in Internet su argomenti quali: Activism, Art, Cyberpunk, Cyber Rights, Crypto & Security, (http://www.dada.it/stranet/network/internet/), come contributo per un coordinamento globale... 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New Strano Network e-mail address is: strano.network@vttv.dada.it Send us your url to upgrade our list From tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Thu Mar 14 17:40:55 1996 Received: from mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (149.139.2.22) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:40:58 -0500 Received: from slip1.idg.fi.cnr.it by mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA02306; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:36:41 GMT Message-Id: <9603142336.AA02306@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it> X-Sender: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:28:39 -0500 To: sikoras@aol.com, simone@cimsi.cim.ch, sj@mediafilter.escape.com, sj@MediaFilter.org, slapic@caesar.elte.hu, soapbox@well.com, soapbox@well.sf.ca.us, spiel@khm.Uni-Koeln.DE, squall@phreak.intermedia.co.uk, SSansavi@vttv.dada.it From: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (Tommaso Tozzi) Subject: strano network new url X-Mailer: Il nuovo indirizzo web di Strano Network e': http://www.dada.it/stranet/ All'interno una sintesi della bbs Virtual Town TV (Idee in movimento, Strano Mondo, arte, video,...) e alcune migliaia di links con cio' che c'e' di meglio in Internet su argomenti quali: Activism, Art, Cyberpunk, Cyber Rights, Crypto & Security, (http://www.dada.it/stranet/network/internet/), come contributo per un coordinamento globale... 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