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From notes@igc5.igc.apc.org Fri Dec 15 19:21:42 1995 Received: from igc5.igc.apc.org (192.82.108.36) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:21:44 -0500 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (cdp.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.1]) by igc5.igc.apc.org (8.7.3/8.7.1) id JAA29905; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:52:19 -0800 (PST) Date: 15 Dec 1995 09:07:55 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat"From: bnalexan@umich.edu Subject: Re: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/1990 Lebanon To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1393544390-768709@mediafilter.org> X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 42 From: "Bryan A. Alexander" Subject: Re: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/1990 Lebanon A good note: Bryan Alexander Department of English University of Michigan ********************** On 15 Dec 1995, Ivo Skoric wrote: > From: "Ivo Skoric" > Subject: Re: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/1990 Lebanon > > Wherever there are people willing to fight, there will be industry > willing to provide weapons. And if a people is unwilling to fight, said industry and its allies will do their best to get those people to fight. Sometimes this industry help put in such > places governments "friendly" to the industry's interests. > Governments who would be able to "lead" their subjects to fight. > The safest place to live in this world is near the arms factory - its > bosses that sell weapons of destruction to others (preferably > overseas), will take damn well care to secure their property. That's > why naturally no matter the immigration laws, there will be more and > more immigrants from the third world to the West. True, true. > > Also, they hate to waste their investment, so all unused weapons > would be quickly transported to other willing users as soon as the > conflict in designated area wanes. Does anybody know where the > conflict will move once Bosnia is settled? Hard to say. The US is moving into election throes, so Cliton will try to keep from getting involved in anything else for the next 12 months. > > ivo From tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Fri Dec 15 19:22:12 1995 Received: from mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (149.139.2.22) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:22:16 -0500 Received: from slip2.idg.fi.cnr.it by mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18196; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 21:42:54 GMT Message-Id: <9512152142.AA18196@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it> X-Sender: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 21:39:17 -0500 To: sikoras@aol.com, simone@cimsi.cim.ch, sj@mediafilter.escape.com, sj@MediaFilter.org, slapic@caesar.elte.hu, soapbox@well.com, soapbox@well.sf.ca.us, spiel@khm.Uni-Koeln.DE, squall@phreak.intermedia.co.uk, SSansavi@vttvnet.trident.nettuno.it From: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (Tommaso Tozzi) Subject: Net'Strike - Sciopero della rete X-Mailer: NET'STRIKE Sciopero della rete First hour Prima ora 21-12-1995 dalle 18:00 alle 19:00 from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. (France time zone) Partecipa al primo sciopero globale della rete Internet Enjoy the first global strike in Internet ================================================ Attention!!! You find english translation at the bottom of message! ================================================ Istruzioni per l'uso: - Diffondi e promuovi questo messaggio. - a) Il giorno 21-12-1995 dalle 18:00 alle 19:00 (data e ora cambiano a seconda del fuso orario; consulta la tabella n.2 in fondo al messaggio) collegati ai siti web del governo francese (vedi elenco indirizzi nella tabella n.1 in fondo al messaggio, oppure ritaglia e usa l'home page che trovi nella tabella n.3 in fondo al messaggio). b) Ripeti l'operazione piu' volte (a intervalli di pochi secondi) per un'ora. Una manifestazione di 1000, 10.000, 100.000 utenti in fila uno dietro l'altro in un corteo globale nei cavi dei siti internet del governo francese. Il risultato di tale sciopero sara' quello di paralizzare per un'ora l'attivita' in rete del governo francese. BOICOTTIAMO LE ISTITUZIONI GOVERNATIVE FRANCESI! Il governo francese mostrando un totale disprezzo per il proprio popolo, per la comunita' internazionale, per la gente comune che vorrebbe crescere i propri figli in un mondo migliore: - prosegue i suoi esperimenti nucleari nel Pacifico; - continua ad utilizzare il nucleare "civile" come principale fonte energetica; - continua a perpetrare i suoi progetti di "ristrutturazione sociale" nonostante l'eccezionale partecipazione dei francesi alle manifestazioni di protesta. Per questo intendiamo togliere, anche se solo parzialmente e solo per periodi limitati, alle istituzioni governative francesi i privilegi a cui tanto tengono tutti i potenti, i signori della guerra, della fame e dell'ingiustizia sociale: l'accesso ai sempre piu' potenti mezzi comunicativi e ai canali informativi, quegli stessi privilegi che vengono negati alla stragrande maggioranza della popolazione mondiale. Continueremo le nostre azioni con ogni mezzo necessario, utilizzando strumenti perfettamente legali, anche se presto i potenti della Terra, che disprezzano la volonta' dei popoli dovranno rendersi conto di quanto potenti possano essere simili mezzi. Questo e' il primo, ma non sara' l'ultimo degli scioperi che promuoveremo in rete. Se vuoi essere contattato per le prossime iniziative spedisci un messaggio al seguente indirizzo: Strano.Network@vttvnet.trident.nettuno.it con subject: Net'Strike e come testo del messaggio il tuo indirizzo internet Attacco comunicativo globale - Massive Comunicative Attack Strano Network =================================================== English translation ******************* Instructions: - Spread this message everywhere - a) In the date 21/12/1995, 6pm-7pm (day and hour change in relationship to the time zone, look at the list no. 2 at the bottom of the message), link to sites of French Government (look at the list no. 1 or cut and copy the home page of the list no. 3); b) reply said procedure several times for an hour by using intervals of few seconds. A demonstration of 1000, 10.000, 100.000 netusers all together making part of a line crossing French Government's sites. The result of this strike will be to stop for an hour network activities of French Government. BOIKOTT THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT'S INSTITUTIONS!. French Goverment has shown a total contempt for French people, for international community, for common people who just would like to grow up their sons in a better world as it: - goes on with nuclear experiments in Pacific Ocean's islands - goes on with use of nuclear energy as mainly source of "civil" energy - goes on with its projects of "social redrawing" without taking into account the enormous presence of people in recent demonstrations of protest against such kind of policy. These are the reasons that drove us to to take off to french government (for a while...) some of the privileges that every powerful man involved in war-games and exploitation plans like very much: The access to the ever growing important new information media. The same privileges denied to all common people. We will go on with our demonstrations with any means, using all technologies, always respecting the law. Those political fellows which do not take into any account people's needs will understand very soon the real power of new information technologies. This is the first strike that we promote, in the future there will be other ons. If you want to get informations for next demonstrations and activities send a message to this address: Strano.Network@vttvnet. trident.nettuno.it with subject: Net'Strike and as content of your message your Internet address MASSIVE COMMUNICATIVE ATTACK Strano Network ===================================================== LIST 1 ******* Elenco dei siti Internet del governo francese: List of France government Internet Web sites: Les services Web du Gouvernement Francais http://www.adit.fr/GOUV/GOUV.html Le Ministere des Affaires Etrangeres http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/ Le Ministere de la Culture et de la Francophonie http://web.culture.fr/ Le Ministere de l'Industrie http://www.ensmp.fr:80/industrie/ Le Ministere de l'Education Nationale, de l'Enseignement Superieur, de la Recherche et de l'Insertion professionnelle http://www.edutel.fr/ Le Ministere de l'Economie, des Finances et du plan http://www.tresor.finances.fr/oat/ Le Ministere de la Sante; publique et de l'Assurance Maladie http://www.sante.fr Electricite de France http://www.edf.fr/ OECD Nuclear Energy Agency http://www.nea.fr/ Le serveur WWW de l'Education Nationale http://www.mesr.fr/ =================================================== LIST 2 ******* Orario e data dello sciopero: Day and hour of the strike: Anchorage: from 8:00 to 9:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995 Atene: from 7:00 to 8:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Barcellona: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Belgrado: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Berlino: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Bruxells: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Copenaghen: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Montreal: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 New York: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Oslo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Parigi: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Roma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 San Francisco: from 9:00 to 10:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995 San Paolo: from 2:00 to 3:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Santiago: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Sidney: from 4:00 to 5:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995 Stoccolma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Tokio: from 3:00 to 4:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995 Vienna: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Zurigo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 =================================================== LIST 3 ******* Net'Strike home page (da usare per il collegamento): Net'Strike home page (use to connect): --------begin cut here :<--------------- NET'STRIKE NET'STRIKE first hour
21-12-1995
from 6 to 7 p.m. (france hour)
Les services Web du Gouvernement Français
Le Ministère des Affaires Etrangères
Le Ministère de la Culture et de la Francophonie
Le Ministère de l'Industrie
Le Ministère de l'Éducation Nationale, de l'Enseignement Supérieur, de la Recherche et de l'Insertion professionnelle
Le Ministère de l'Economie, des Finances et du plan
Le Ministère de la Santé publique et de l'Assurance Maladie
Electricite de France
OECD Nuclear Energy Agency
Le serveur WWW de l'Education Nationale
Informations: -------->: stop cut here --------------- From tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Fri Dec 15 19:22:12 1995 Received: from mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (149.139.2.22) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:22:16 -0500 Received: from slip2.idg.fi.cnr.it by mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA18196; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 21:42:54 GMT Message-Id: <9512152142.AA18196@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it> X-Sender: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 21:39:17 -0500 To: sikoras@aol.com, simone@cimsi.cim.ch, sj@mediafilter.escape.com, sj@MediaFilter.org, slapic@caesar.elte.hu, soapbox@well.com, soapbox@well.sf.ca.us, spiel@khm.Uni-Koeln.DE, squall@phreak.intermedia.co.uk, SSansavi@vttvnet.trident.nettuno.it From: tozzi@mailserver.idg.fi.cnr.it (Tommaso Tozzi) Subject: Net'Strike - Sciopero della rete X-Mailer:Strano Network - Massive Comunicative Attack
NET'STRIKE Sciopero della rete First hour Prima ora 21-12-1995 dalle 18:00 alle 19:00 from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. (France time zone) Partecipa al primo sciopero globale della rete Internet Enjoy the first global strike in Internet ================================================ Attention!!! You find english translation at the bottom of message! ================================================ Istruzioni per l'uso: - Diffondi e promuovi questo messaggio. - a) Il giorno 21-12-1995 dalle 18:00 alle 19:00 (data e ora cambiano a seconda del fuso orario; consulta la tabella n.2 in fondo al messaggio) collegati ai siti web del governo francese (vedi elenco indirizzi nella tabella n.1 in fondo al messaggio, oppure ritaglia e usa l'home page che trovi nella tabella n.3 in fondo al messaggio). b) Ripeti l'operazione piu' volte (a intervalli di pochi secondi) per un'ora. Una manifestazione di 1000, 10.000, 100.000 utenti in fila uno dietro l'altro in un corteo globale nei cavi dei siti internet del governo francese. Il risultato di tale sciopero sara' quello di paralizzare per un'ora l'attivita' in rete del governo francese. BOICOTTIAMO LE ISTITUZIONI GOVERNATIVE FRANCESI! Il governo francese mostrando un totale disprezzo per il proprio popolo, per la comunita' internazionale, per la gente comune che vorrebbe crescere i propri figli in un mondo migliore: - prosegue i suoi esperimenti nucleari nel Pacifico; - continua ad utilizzare il nucleare "civile" come principale fonte energetica; - continua a perpetrare i suoi progetti di "ristrutturazione sociale" nonostante l'eccezionale partecipazione dei francesi alle manifestazioni di protesta. Per questo intendiamo togliere, anche se solo parzialmente e solo per periodi limitati, alle istituzioni governative francesi i privilegi a cui tanto tengono tutti i potenti, i signori della guerra, della fame e dell'ingiustizia sociale: l'accesso ai sempre piu' potenti mezzi comunicativi e ai canali informativi, quegli stessi privilegi che vengono negati alla stragrande maggioranza della popolazione mondiale. Continueremo le nostre azioni con ogni mezzo necessario, utilizzando strumenti perfettamente legali, anche se presto i potenti della Terra, che disprezzano la volonta' dei popoli dovranno rendersi conto di quanto potenti possano essere simili mezzi. Questo e' il primo, ma non sara' l'ultimo degli scioperi che promuoveremo in rete. Se vuoi essere contattato per le prossime iniziative spedisci un messaggio al seguente indirizzo: Strano.Network@vttvnet.trident.nettuno.it con subject: Net'Strike e come testo del messaggio il tuo indirizzo internet Attacco comunicativo globale - Massive Comunicative Attack Strano Network =================================================== English translation ******************* Instructions: - Spread this message everywhere - a) In the date 21/12/1995, 6pm-7pm (day and hour change in relationship to the time zone, look at the list no. 2 at the bottom of the message), link to sites of French Government (look at the list no. 1 or cut and copy the home page of the list no. 3); b) reply said procedure several times for an hour by using intervals of few seconds. A demonstration of 1000, 10.000, 100.000 netusers all together making part of a line crossing French Government's sites. The result of this strike will be to stop for an hour network activities of French Government. BOIKOTT THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT'S INSTITUTIONS!. French Goverment has shown a total contempt for French people, for international community, for common people who just would like to grow up their sons in a better world as it: - goes on with nuclear experiments in Pacific Ocean's islands - goes on with use of nuclear energy as mainly source of "civil" energy - goes on with its projects of "social redrawing" without taking into account the enormous presence of people in recent demonstrations of protest against such kind of policy. These are the reasons that drove us to to take off to french government (for a while...) some of the privileges that every powerful man involved in war-games and exploitation plans like very much: The access to the ever growing important new information media. The same privileges denied to all common people. We will go on with our demonstrations with any means, using all technologies, always respecting the law. Those political fellows which do not take into any account people's needs will understand very soon the real power of new information technologies. This is the first strike that we promote, in the future there will be other ons. If you want to get informations for next demonstrations and activities send a message to this address: Strano.Network@vttvnet. trident.nettuno.it with subject: Net'Strike and as content of your message your Internet address MASSIVE COMMUNICATIVE ATTACK Strano Network ===================================================== LIST 1 ******* Elenco dei siti Internet del governo francese: List of France government Internet Web sites: Les services Web du Gouvernement Francais http://www.adit.fr/GOUV/GOUV.html Le Ministere des Affaires Etrangeres http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/ Le Ministere de la Culture et de la Francophonie http://web.culture.fr/ Le Ministere de l'Industrie http://www.ensmp.fr:80/industrie/ Le Ministere de l'Education Nationale, de l'Enseignement Superieur, de la Recherche et de l'Insertion professionnelle http://www.edutel.fr/ Le Ministere de l'Economie, des Finances et du plan http://www.tresor.finances.fr/oat/ Le Ministere de la Sante; publique et de l'Assurance Maladie http://www.sante.fr Electricite de France http://www.edf.fr/ OECD Nuclear Energy Agency http://www.nea.fr/ Le serveur WWW de l'Education Nationale http://www.mesr.fr/ =================================================== LIST 2 ******* Orario e data dello sciopero: Day and hour of the strike: Anchorage: from 8:00 to 9:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995 Atene: from 7:00 to 8:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Barcellona: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Belgrado: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Berlino: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Bruxells: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Copenaghen: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Montreal: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 New York: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Oslo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Parigi: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Roma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 San Francisco: from 9:00 to 10:00 a.m. of 21-december-1995 San Paolo: from 2:00 to 3:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Santiago: from 0:00 to 1:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Sidney: from 4:00 to 5:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995 Stoccolma: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Tokio: from 3:00 to 4:00 a.m. of 22-december-1995 Vienna: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 Zurigo: from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. of 21-december-1995 =================================================== LIST 3 ******* Net'Strike home page (da usare per il collegamento): Net'Strike home page (use to connect): --------begin cut here :<--------------- NET'STRIKE NET'STRIKE first hour
21-12-1995
from 6 to 7 p.m. (france hour)
Les services Web du Gouvernement Français
Le Ministère des Affaires Etrangères
Le Ministère de la Culture et de la Francophonie
Le Ministère de l'Industrie
Le Ministère de l'Éducation Nationale, de l'Enseignement Supérieur, de la Recherche et de l'Insertion professionnelle
Le Ministère de l'Economie, des Finances et du plan
Le Ministère de la Santé publique et de l'Assurance Maladie
Electricite de France
OECD Nuclear Energy Agency
Le serveur WWW de l'Education Nationale
Informations: -------->: stop cut here --------------- From notes@igc5.igc.apc.org Fri Dec 15 19:29:14 1995 Received: from igc5.igc.apc.org (192.82.108.36) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:29:15 -0500 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (cdp.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.1]) by igc5.igc.apc.org (8.7.3/8.7.1) id NAA24694; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 13:48:36 -0800 (PST) Date: 15 Dec 1995 11:21:00 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat"Strano Network - Massive Comunicative Attack
From: VANJA.NIKOLIC@ZAMIR-ZG.comlink.apc.org Subject: hello from Zagreb To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: <5zuB9RAZYZB@pz-vanic.zamir-zg.zt> X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 26 Hi, I'm working as a facilitator of the ZAMIR network which connects human rights, peace, women and ecological groups, as well as some other alternative groups and individuals trough the BBSs in Zagreb, Pakrac, Sarajevo, Tuzla, Zenica, Beograd and Pristina. I'd like to thank to all of you who are sending greetings and best wishes to people here. I have to inform you that there are more than 1 000 users (not only inidividual) conected on our net, but not too many who subscribed to apc/zamir/chat conference. That's probably the reason that you don't get many replyes from these terirories. The APC conference which most of us follow is: apc/yugo/antiwar In a case you have some really urgent and immportant messsages that you'd like to send to users of our net, please do contact me on vanja.nikolic@zamir-zg.ztn.apc org. For your information, zamir users do nothave direct conection with internet, but we can follow all apc and Hrnet conferences, as well as some other. greetings from snowy, freesing Zagreb Vanja ## CrossPoint v3.02 ##