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From notes@igc5.igc.org Sat Oct 21 17:33:49 1995 Received: from igc5.igc.org (192.82.108.36) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Sat, 21 Oct 1995 17:33:53 -0500 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (cdp.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.1]) by igc5.igc.org (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA00768 for "conf-zamir.chat"; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 13:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: 21 Oct 1995 12:58:24 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat"From: chacko@alpha.fdu.edu Subject: Re: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/Prayers and Greetings To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: <1397831156-62455@mediafilter.org> In-Reply-To: <1406255752-133267@mediafilter.org> X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 5 We're praying for all you out there. Let God brings safety and everything. May God Bless you. From notes@igc5.igc.org Sat Oct 21 18:25:50 1995 Received: from igc5.igc.org (192.82.108.36) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:25:51 -0500 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (cdp.igc.apc.org [192.82.108.1]) by igc5.igc.org (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA06917 for "conf-zamir.chat"; Sat, 21 Oct 1995 14:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: 21 Oct 1995 13:59:56 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat" From: varvel@plains.nodak.edu Subject: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/Yes, peace is coming To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: <1397827522-282968@mediafilter.org> X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 65 Yes, it looks like peace is coming to Bosnia. Six feet below the ground, that is. People who look to further their own self-interest on the basis of chauvinism should think very carefully about the "peace" they want. This is because they will get it, whether in Bosnia, Flanders' Fields, or my own country, the US. For many years, policy makers have been keen to kill people, bomb people, rape people, and burn people, as long as it was done by remote control, as long as they didn't have to see it. The atrocites of Milosevic were simply the most obvious examples we see. Some day, the people who make decisions over other peoples' lives should actually see what evil they are perpetrating. The people who tell others to murder but cannot take the responsibility for smelling the burning flesh or seeing the decapitated head are acting without responsibility. Power is not simply a game. It is a matter of life and death. It is responsibility. The blind lust for power without responsibility easily translates into a lust for blood. I pray that there is not only peace someday in Bosnia, but happiness. Not only victory over the hot fires of chauvinism, but the wisdom to see the consequences of actions and the goodness to care about having an environment one can raise children in. Some day, I hope that world leaders can think of the consequences of their actions and inaction on the little children, and choose to do what is best for them. --AV--