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From notes@igc.apc.org Sat Aug 5 22:30:50 1995 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (192.82.108.1) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Sat, 5 Aug 1995 22:30:51 -0500 Received: (from notes) by cdp.igc.apc.org (8.6.12/Revision: 1.203 ) id SAA18406 for "conf-zamir.chat"; Sat, 5 Aug 1995 18:46:10 -0700 Date: 05 Aug 1995 18:13:38 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat"From: oggie_sokolovic@triad_004.triad.org Subject: Re: Common Sense To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 85 From: oggie_sokolovic@triad_004.triad.org (Oggie Sokolovic) >From: doctorb@ix.netcom.com (. ) > >You wrote: >> >>From: Robert John Bennett >> >>Dear Mr. President: >> >>Common sense, I suppose, doesn't count for very much in world affairs, but >>you have shown a great deal of it in not condemning Croatia for attempting >>to recover Krajina. > > I don't know this is the case. Your reason the Bosnian President offered >his resignation was one of the 20 rumors according to newspapers. > >>Where were France, Britain, Germany, and Russia three years ago when >>Krajina Serbs set up their own government within the borders of an >>internationally recognized country, and then accepted help from Serbia >>proper in order to maintain that "government"? > > 3 years ago? Just a little more than 3 years ago "Serbia proper" was known >as "Yugoslavia" and included all the warring countries. What is so sacrosanct >about the present borders? The "internationally recognized government" of >Croatia was all of 2 days old after 37% of the electorate RECECTED IT and went >to war. > Because Yugoslavia was "Serbia proper", and Serbia was really considering the rest of Yugoslavia as it's proper, some 10 million citizens of, now former "Serbia proper", didn't like it, and had decided to leave. Serbs would have had more rights and authonomy in independent Bosnia and Croatia then they have given to the minorities who live in Serbia and Monte Negro. > >>Senator Robert Dole, at least, seems to be one of us. He says HE >>understands the ongoing Croatian offensive, in the face of the UN's >>failure to help reintegrate Krajina into Croatia. > > Look the UN was never mandated to "reintigrate the Krajina into Croatia". >They are trying to maintain "safe areas" during a civil war. The safe areas >are not sacrosanct. OBVIOUSLY the Bosnians are going to attack from and escape >to them if they can. > According to the UN resolutions Krajina was ment to be reintegrated in Croatia, diplomatically. But after 3 years of fruitless "negotiations" when nothing was achieved, Krajina Serbs should have been confronted with the very same mean that they used to "establish" their state - Krajina - FORCE. Let them feel suffering that they have been imposing to all the others who happen to be in their way up until now. > >>Ross Perot - who is about as simple and ordinary as you can get - > > Ross Perot green-mailed GM, threatening to shut it down [he owned the >software that runs the automobile robotics]. He would have kicked in every >door in America if he were in charge of the "war on drugs." Guy looks like >Nepoleon, steely eyes. >> >>If the United States allows areas of Croatia and Bosnia to remain under >>Serb domination and ultimately to become a part of "Greater Serbia," >>southwestern Europe and eventually the world will be a very insecure place >>indeed. >> >>But "Greater Serbia." Where HAVE we heard that before? > > Before June l991: synonym for Yugoslavia. > Unfortunately, you are right. But trust me - NEVER AGAIN. >>Ah, yes, of course. It sounds very much like "Grossdeutschland" - "Greater >>Germany." Or even "das grosse deutsche Reich" - the Greater German Reich. >> >>How soon we forget. > > That's if you knew anything to begin with. You got the numbers I sent you >on the Croation facists in WWII, the Ustache/ If you mention Ustache and want to pretend you are objective and neutral, don't forget to mention Chetniks as well. Were they better than Ustache? Than don't forget to mention 250 000 Croats and Muslims that were slaughtered by victorious Tito's partisans after they had surrendered at the end of the WWII. And if you want to corespond with me, please sign your mail. Ognjen Sokolovic, Sarajevo, Bosna i Hercegovina.