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From notes@igc.apc.org Tue Aug 22 20:14:19 1995 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (192.82.108.1) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:14:19 -0500 Received: (from notes) by cdp.igc.apc.org (8.6.12/Revision: 1.203 ) id MAA16511 for "conf-zamir.chat"; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 12:49:22 -0700 Date: 22 Aug 1995 12:43:53 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat"From: co@xs4all.nl Subject: http://mediafilter.org/SJ/Pages/Just a hello to all my friends To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: <1403016393-290581@mediafilter.org> X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 39 Hello, I'm Dijana Alagic. I lived in Saarajevo in Dolac Malta. My parents live still there. I would like to give them a message, that I'm alright and I'm in the Netherlands.Right now I don't know who will read this ,and if there is anybody there so nice to pass on this message. If you have any questions send me an E-mail to : co@xs4all.nl or co@knot.nl. Thanks a lot and I hope to hear from you very soon. P.S. I LIKE THE SAY HELLO TO: MY PARENTS, MY SISTER NAIDA, BROTHER DINO AND OTHER MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY, TO MY BEST FRIENDS MAJA, KUDA NEDELJKO,GORAN, VILDANA MEHMEDOVIC, MAJA TRIFKOVIC, SEJLA KAMERIC, MIA CUKLE, SAUDIN HRNJIC, TIMUR MAKAREVIC AND ALL OTHER FRIENDS AND PROFESSORS FROM ART ACADEMY AND MUSIC ACADEMY THAT I HAVE FORGOTTEN TO MENTION. KAJEVIC DEJAN, TAMARA, NATASA, GORANA, DAVOR From notes@igc.apc.org Tue Aug 22 20:26:04 1995 Received: from cdp.igc.apc.org (192.82.108.1) by MediaFilter.org with SMTP (MailShare 1.0b10); Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:26:05 -0500 Received: (from notes) by cdp.igc.apc.org (8.6.12/Revision: 1.203 ) id NAA23409 for "conf-zamir.chat"; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 13:45:51 -0700 Date: 22 Aug 1995 13:21:56 Reply-To: Conference "zamir.chat" From: oggie_sokolovic@triad_004.triad.org Subject: Re: A Lot to Admire: CIA and SKY To: Recipients of zamir-chat-l Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Gateway: conf2mail@igc.apc.org Errors-To: owner-zamir-chat-l@igc.apc.org Precedence: bulk Lines: 109 From: oggie_sokolovic@triad_004.triad.org (Oggie Sokolovic) >From: doctorb@ix.netcom.com (. ) > >You wrote: >> >>From: Robert John Bennett >> >>Dear President Clinton: > > Oh, an American in Germany is he, writing letters to his President? Just >a coincidence the U.S. and Germans split from the rest of NATO over the Croat >attack on Krajina? > The others have already chosen to turn the blind eye or even to support Greater Serbian agression. >>On British television available here in Munich by satellite, the report of >>a CIA official discussing the apparent mass grave of thousands of >>Srebrenica males has been given great prominence. >> >>The official was shown stating that not only was the fresh mass grave a >>result of recent Serb atrocities, he was also quoted as saying, "the >>atrocities committed by the Bosnian Serbs are unequaled in their scope and >>intensity." > > Simply a lie to obscure the knowledge the US had about the "scope and >intensity" of the war which was fiercest and took the most casualties in its >first years. > > "Between September 1992 and June 1993, the United States >Government submitted eight separate reports to the War Crimes >Commission summarizing thousands of instances of killings, >torture, rape, interference with humanitarian deliveries, mass >deportations, and other violations of humanitarian law. In >addition, the United States provided the United Nations with >400 refugee reports totaling over 1,000 pages." (1) > I agree. Karadzic's Serbs have committed other terrible atrocities in concentration camps throughout Bosnia in 1992-93.(Omarska,Manjaca...) >>The same British channel (SKY-TV) then interviewed a Serb journalist in >>Belgrade who was asked what the reaction of Serbs was to this CIA report. >>He said that Serbs were angry because of the "timing" of these >>allegations, especially when Serbs are suffering battlefield losses and >>being driven from the Krajina. > > Obviously, the release of this report was timed to coincide with the U.S. >Defense Intelligene Agency trained Croatian assault on the Krajina. The only >question is: Are you a paid or unpaid part of the apparat? > >>Incredible. Serbs are not concerned about the content of the story, only >>about its "timing?" > > No, I am concearned about it's content but it's timing seems to be for >transparent propogandistic purposes. Assumedly during the first few years of >the war which took 1/4 million lives the US could have released any number of >satellite photos attesting to what they were quietly documenting on the >ground. It still doesn't change the fact that thousands of people were mass mourdered in Srebrenica, and talking about the timing of the release... is inmoral, at least. > >>The next part of SKY-TV's report showed Madeleine Albright - as beautiful >>as one of the three Fates in a Wagnerian opera - sitting in judgment in >>the Security Council and preparing to accuse Serbia of still more war >crimes. > > Wagner is illegal in Israel. > ??!???!!!!????!!???? >>One wonders: what about the thousands of Bosnian men and boys buried in >>that mass grave who - according to the CIA - were not simply "harassed" by >>the Serbs but murdered by them? > > I wonder how long the area will be "unaccessable" to the "international >community" lest somebody go there and discover no bodies. Well, it shouldn't >be hard to find a mass grave in that country: If the US has been taking >pictures from the sky they should know exactly where all of them are and a >substitute site will quickly be "discovered". Karadzic's Serbs would gladly have let the international community go there and discover no bodies, only if they (Karadzic's Serbs) knew that the mass graves do not exist. They know what they have done in Srebrenica. >>That is what makes some of us here in Europe think that perhaps there is >>some justice on this earth after all: the world has stood by for the last >>four years while the Bosnians have lost THEIR country to the Serbs and >>while the people of Sarajevo have suffered the most horrific siege since >>Leningrad, fifty years ago. > > The West would have been completely content to stand by and watch the >siege of Leningrad or any other Russian city if only the "lunatic >anti-communist" had confined his attack to what the West had always hoped he >would. > > >(1)TITLE: BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA HUMAN RIGHTS PRACTICES, 1993 > DATE: JANUARY 31, 1994 > AUTHOR: U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE Ognjen Sokolovic