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yea put them under investigation for what they are doing to guys my bro is in there and went threw the same s--t.
My son is there now. He is supposed to be in a level one area, but he is in a level 3-4 level under the gun constantly. He is on his guard constantly. He said that one of the guards had stated that HDP is so remote that no officials bother to check what is going on there. I'm afraid to speak out for fear of retaliation against him. Just wait until he gets out and is no longer on probation which is less than a year. I pray to God that he is not pushed into a corner to get more time. Under the conditions the prisoners are under, it's no wonder they have so many fights amoungst each other. Appears if they were treated more like humans, they ( the prisons) would not have so much trouble controlling the prisons. The Golden Rule is a good thing. Too bad it's not practiced. If anyone knows where I might go with my complaints, I would be grateful. a-s
My father is a Sargeant at High Desert and i think he is probably the most corrupt person i have met. i defintitly think that they should be put under investigation.
my husband is there in b- me and his daughter is looking forward to him coming home and dont want nothing happening to him hopefully he will come home safe he is black so whatever is the best solution for the inmate would be appreciated because whatever happens to the inmates while in coustody is the prisons responsibility and could get sued
My son's father is in this prison. I read some articles on prison life and it made me so sad. I hope he is safe. I will pray for all of you that are in the same situation. It is so difficult to be a mother of child whos father is in prison. I never thought this would happen to us.
Another poster said: The Golden Rule is a good thing. Too bad it's not practiced. It's too bad the men who are incarcerated at this facility didn't practice the "golden rule" themselves. If they had, maybe they wouldn't be where they are now. Sorry, there are a lot more deserving people to feel sorry for than state prison inmates. I'll reserve my pity for them...
as far as the "Golden Rule" my brother practiced it, and he is there. Without even knowing you i can GUARENTEE!!! that he has followed it better than you and most people. So now, from what i've seen animals that are to be youthanized get better treatment. And correct some people in the prisons do not deserve pitty and there are BAD people. Not all and each should not be treated unfairly or unhumanely simply becuase they have been put there. Each person is there own man. And each should be given the respect they give. If a man uses respect, manners, and has integrity he should be treated the same. In these cases the guards are acting as barbaric as the inmates and that should be treated more serious then a prisoner as these guards are being intrusted by the people the United States. Inmates are given no trust and are what your saying expected to do wrong. This upsets me more. I think a guard who behaves this way and does wrong to innmates should be treated worse than someone on death row. What is happeneing is the most sad thing of all, as though there is no good any more the criminals are doing wrong but the guards are doing worse. Is there no such thing as good people to relise this cycle of barbaric actions only grows worse and worse as the cycle goes around. I have a 9 year old, how do i explain to her that guards in the prison are the bad people. but that people like you feel they don't deserve to be punished. How is that fair, and how do I raise a good person when this kind of thing just keeps getting pushed aside. Pretty soon we won't have people in this world who know the differance from right and wrong. Maybe there will not be a need for prison, we can go back to a movie like setting where it's a Dog-e-dog, eye for an eye world. The statement of saving your pitty, you should but i have pitty for you. This only showsthe exact message i am sending. You where not raised to judge a person when you meet that person, you will not teach your son that. The cycle will not end. I only hope that because you are not setting a good example that when your son ends up in HDSP (witch could happen considering the ethics you are passing down)that you have pitty for him, because noone else will. D.D.L. WA
First of all, lady, you should get yourself back to night school and get some English writing classes under your belt because your ignorance is very obvious by your grammar and misspellings. * If your brother practiced the "golden rule" why is he in a state prison? Mistaken identity? I highly doubt it. What was he convicted of? Drugs? Rape? Robbery? Whatever it was, I GUARANTEE it doesn't fall under the heading: Practicing the "golden rule." Do you even know what the "golden rule" is? * You say that the inmates should be treated with respect. Then you say that the the guards act as barbaric as the inmates. That, lady, would imply that the inmates are barbaric - which I believe for most of them is a fact. * You ask what you should tell your 9 year old daughter about the guards. Instead of trying to explain why these people (who have to tolerate watching over of the absolute scum of humanity) are supposed to be "bad" why not teach her to be a valued member of society and STAY OUT OF PRISON. * You say that I "was not raised to judge a person." Then why do you think you have the right to judge me? For your information, I have a daughter and two sons and not one of them has ever been a prison inmate. If anyone's kid ends up in prison, it's going to be yours. You know why? Because she has someone who blames everyone else for their problems. Instead of crying about how the guards don't "respect" him, your brother should admit his mistake (whatever he did), do his time and then prove that he's worth something when he gets out. What has he done lately to deserve any respect anyway? * Have a nice life...
Well, I'll take those minor insults you have thrown lightly. I hadn't proof read my feed back. This isn't what I do for a living. It seems I have touched a soft spot with you though. By the way you are talking, it sounds like you are a guard. Lets get a few things straight, you have only inhanced my point. The guards who in your words are forced to "tolerate the scum of humanity" have chosen the jobs they do. They have either chosen to make a living as guard because they couldn't get a job any where else or because they thought that the job would be of some inportance. Every person has a choice in what they do. A person makes a choice to be criminal. Just like a person chooses what profession they follow. Or if they get married or have kids. If you can't do your job correctly, QUIT! Why should a person have the write to be criminal; to a criminal. Your write a inmate has to seek below the level of a man, be barbarick. In order to servive they have to be scum, inhumane. Can you imagine that, or are you already living that way. I do believe that there are guards that can take pride in the work they do. It is probably one of the toughest jobs in the world. At least for the good one. The ones who have to see there co-workers do wrong and still try to do write. And have to see inmates with know compassion. See the ones who see people sent to prison and know that they should not be there. And feel the pain that those inmates have, because they have to loose the compasion for their fellow man. Guards are not born that way like I said it is passed down, to many people in this world are weak. My point in asking you what to tell my daughter is that children are taught to see police as being "good". My question was how do you explain that its ok if a guard or police officer beat the hell out of person and go unpunished. Or degrade a person, that can not defend there selves. Yes, I find these guards weak, and barbarick. The more the guards choose to act this way, or are aloud to act this way the worse the prisons will get. Any guard who acts this way, not in self defence is barbarick and weaker then the inmate and for every reason should be on the inside of a cell and not the outside. Also, I don't know if you are really stupid or really naive. But every person in this world can get put into prison. Good or Bad, innocent or guilty. For you to think that every inmate in this prison should be their or that every one in their is guilty: Is complete ignorance and all the knight school in the world could not help. Another old rule is those who live in glass houses should never through stones. You talk as though you are better then thou, that sounds like a badge. You right that more guilty then innocent go to jail. I really am not in any worry of my child going to a prison. And by know means do I have any worry of my child ending up in prison. I have raised her with humanity, and morales. Much of this was tought to her by her uncles as well. By the statements you've made I find it hard to believe that you have passed down those two things. And only seem to be passing hate. You have so much anger, I find it hard not to judge you by the things you have said. Your not getting the underlying point: treat others the wat you would want to be treated. I'm the oldest, with two younger brothers. None of us ever had been to juvenile hall, jail or prison. Now I have one brother in Iraq serving for the country. And one who obviously made a mistake, and WAS set up guilty or innocent still a mistake was made(the people you know or trustare your choices). And was given 6 months in prison. As I told the judge of course my brother made a mistake or he wouldn't be standing in front of him. And of course he does deserve to be punished. Twice as much time in county would have even more appropriate in this case then the time he must serve in HDSP. I would feel that way if he was a stranger that i just met. I am not placing blame: whats done is done. Even judges make mistakes, watch the Hurricane. Or better yet read it. There is not one sytem in this world that is flawless. It takes a small step by every man to make things better in any invirement. And for what its worth if it makes you feel any better, there where some really good guards that made comments to my brother when he went in. He said they where not all bad. Some probably even saved his life considering he had never been in this form of environment and did not know all the rules. Those where strong people, they did let him walk in there blind to the fact that if treat someone descent you will be disrespected. Those are guards that I thank. And he never lied he told truth from the start. Wheren't raised not to take responcibility for our own actions. He has also been bettering himself since the day he got to jail. Was a trusty the first week in Jail. Wasn't raised not to work, always pulled his own weight. Has taken every class offered to him and recieved certicates:job skills,child care, alcohol, GED and three credits away from a diploma. I am not worried about him when he gets out either, he will choose to pick his friends a little better now. And is definatly aware of the consquences when the wrong choise is made. Are you?
To quote the late Ronald Reagan, "There you go again." By that I'm talking about the "I'm better than you" attitude and your judging me. You don't do "this" for a living, huh? You mean writing? No kidding. I'm not a professional writer either but I can at least compose an English sentence without completely butchering it. I counted about 27 misspelled words and at least ten incorrect uses of grammar in your last rant. It almost hurt my eyes to try to read it. Did you attend school past the 4th grade? You said over and over that your brother made a "mistake" and ended up in state prison. You still haven't told me what he did. What did your brother do if it was such a minor offense? Every convict's excuse for committing their criminal activity is that he "ran with the wrong crowd." Well, guess what? News flash: You're free to pick the crowd you hang around with. If he chose to hang around with drug dealers or rapists or murders that was his choice. No one forced him to commit his crime. You're also correct that the guards chose their profession. That doesn't mean they should have to submit to being threatened, spit upon and other unspeakable things they have to put up with. While some of the inmates in the system may have seen the errors of their way and are now acting decently, the fact is most of them are nothing more than animals in human bodies. You're dead wrong that I'm a prison guard. I'm just an honest taxpayer who gets really tired of my tax dollars being spent on worthless scum inmates instead of being used for more constructive purposes. Things like decent schools and clean parks that kids can play in and participate in activities that might teach them to be prodctive citizens instead of future inmates. At the end of your rant you stated, "I am not worried about him when he gets out either, he will choose to pick his friends a little better now. And is definatly aware of the consquences when the wrong choise is made. Are you? " (Your words. Your misspellings and incorrect grammar.) What do I have to prove to you? You said your brother is currently serving a state prison sentence. I'm not. Sounds like I already chose to pick my friends correctly and I'm very much aware of the consequences when the wrong choice is made. That's why I choose to stay out of prison by doing the right things. By the way, the sentence I quoted above, if written correctly, would read, "I am not worried about him when he gets out either. He will choose to pick his friends a little better now and is definitely aware of the consequences when the wrong choice is made." And no, you're the one who's not getting the point. If your brother has it so bad in prison, why did he commit actions that put him there? I'm not saying that prison life is good but then, it shouldn't be. If conditions were wonderful in prison, why wouldn't everyone choose to go there and be fed and clothed for free? I'm sorry that your brother is in prison but he chose to be there. Quit trying to make excuses for him.
my son was just tranfered to high desert from quentin.you can send e-mails to Gov Schwarzenegger at http://www.govmail.ca.gov.or you can go to: san quentin state prison and you can read or hear what our gov is doing about the calif prison system which is very corrupt on the inside.
I'm real sorry for the person who thinks that all prisoners deserve what they get. I believe that you do the crime you do the time.this person stated that when prisoners get out there like animals. well!!! when your treated like an animal/like a nothing how do you expect that human being to be when he get out. our prison system is so corrupt and it will stay this way because of people like you who think that all prisoners should get what they deserve,that they get a roof over there heads,a bed to sleep in,& 3 meals a day. God forbid if you should ever have a a family member go to prison.when that animal gets out,he has to deal with people like you who think of prisoners as animals. What about the prisoners that were railroaded & spent years in prison,only to finally be able to get someone to fight for there freedom,since they should never have been there in the first place .who should be responsible for these animals. the cops altered the paper work,the D.A. who hide the evidence??or us because we pay there saleries. when your treated like a dog,you'll bite like one.
I agree with the last writer. And the mand who calls him an "honest Taxpayer" has got a lot to learn. That will obviously not happen. Maybe if your were not trying to look for mispelled words or grammer use you could listen and learn something. I am in know way trying to make exuses for my brother. And in fact have some similar beliefs to you. Although considering how ignorant you sound, I find it hard to admit. It is true you should not go with out being punished for your actions. And it is true that every person has choices. And like I siad before each one of those guards choose to be in the position they are in as well. Guards nor prisoners should be treated wrong. But having a badge and a night stick does not mean that you should be able to act like an animal and be called an officer of peace. Respect goes both ways. You are correct some of the people in jail do act like animals that should have been put to sleep rather then given life. And then there are those who are in discuss by the actions they are forced to see. There are other guards who deserve to be honored. There was a guard that actually pulled my brother aside and told him exactly what to do and not to do when he was arrested. She knew he had never been arrested before and could see that he did not have criminal behavior. On some the points prisoners have it better than they should. Other points are below the standerd of living. A prisoner doesn't deserve TV's in there cell or cable. They also should not have to fight like stray pit bulls in order to be treated with respect. Marijuanna transporting, that as his charge. And he was set up, the Judge even new it. He only ended up having to be in there 4 months because other wise the dirty cops would have had to get punished too. The whole thing was crazy, and my brother was excepting of his punishment. No body is disputing that if you do the crime you should spend the time. And I was not saying that prison is supposed to be a five star hotal. I said that I have one brother in Iraq that I have to worry about each day to find out if he'll make it home. I shouldn't have to worry more about the youngest, when he is in a prison her in the USA. As far as choosing your friends, you probably don't have many. And your wife probably has to be a in the closet drinker in order to be with you. So keep being an honest taxpayer. Try and open your mind to be a little bit more realistic. And admit when you are wrong. Your shovanistic remarks and unrealistic statements make it to easy to win a debate against you. Especially when you are as negative as to try and insult me becuase I do not proof read or put energy into the writing of feedback on a website. I bet you will be able to fill in the blanks on this one: K-ss m- A--.
the feedback on this page is for support of our family members who are in our prison system venting here helps? everyone know that there are guards that are right & then you have guards who are sadistic. how one spells or writes should not be the issue.educated people have been known to to spell & write incorrectly but over all you know what they are saying,harping on spelling & grammer shows that one should be able to read & understand what they are reading regardless of how it is spelt or written.. to the person who wrote the last letter on this site. I totally understand/understood your letter,I read it to see what you had to say,not to see how the spelling or grammer was. that other person was way out of line..
were not asking for any one to feel sorry for our men in prison,were just asking that they be treated like humans.I don't want some guard to set my son up in a cock fight.golden rule or not where does it say treat prisoners like dogs? if prisoners were treated humanly the guards wouldn't have to be looking over there shoulder so much. prison reform is greatly needed.
To the last two people writeing, thank you both. I am glad to see that there are people who feel the same way as I do. The more people who take a look at the situation the better. Even the "honest Taxpayers" in the word need to see. The more eyes that open, the more people will break down their the hard shell that they have built around them. The more that happens the more humane people will be. My brother has been transfered out of High Desert, and will spend the last two months in a lower level prison. I am happy about that for him. He says it's a little better. But my heart goes out to those of you who are still having to go through the pain and worry. Of course I do not place the blame on the guards. The men in the prison who have lost humanity need help too. The go together hand and hand, and feed on each others nagative and groosom nature. The only message I can try to send is to be there for your friends and family inside. Wright them as much as you can speaking of the positive, and try to inforce the good in them. That is the only way to keep them from loosing their humanity and changing in to the peolpe that we dread. And will keep them from ever going back.
To the bleeding heart that feels his brother has been mistreated: You say your brother was charged with marijuana transporting. Then right away, you say he was set up. I suspect that what really happened is that he got caught doing what he was charged with. And BTW, you're calling me ignorant when it's you who can't seem to spell or compose a correct English sentence. Last, but not least, thanks for making my point about your lack of intelligence by resorting to profanity. To the other bleeding hearts who threw in their two cents: Two of you said that if you treat people like animals (or dogs) they'll act like animals. Well, guess what? Most of these guys (I said most, not all) were already animals when they were incarcerated. That's why they've committed crimes that most honest, respectful people wouldn't commit. Another of you said that I shouldn't point out misspellings and poor grammar. I'm only pointing out just how uneducated this guy is and that is why he's making excuses for his convict brother (who was framed - give me a break). Yet another of you said "if prisoners were treated humanly (sic) the guards wouldn't have to be looking over there (sic) shoulder so much." That's a crock. Would you like to go in there with a guard uniform on and test your theory? My guess is that you'd be shanked within a week because they'd recognize you as an easy target. Most inmates (again, I stress "most") would attack the guards whether they were treated humanely or not. Many times their actions in this way are the reasons they're in prison in the first place! Now you all go about your sniveling about your poor abused convict relatives. I can honestly say (and proudly) that I don't have any relatives currently residing in the prison system. And BTW, I have many friends. Guess what? They don't reside there either. You guys don't like my comments? Well, I don't like most of yours either...
I should start by clarifying to you, I am a woman. My brother took his punishment like a man. A man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He even forfitted his motion to dismiss, that took a lot. He wanted to take his lesson, like a man. And considering the arresting officers both purgered them selves it was clear the case would be thrown out. He was set up, and did take the rap for some one else. Unfortuanatly you live in a little box and refuse to except the critisism given to you as a tool to learn from. And I expect that you are a lieing as well. Why else would you ever have been on this web site unless you where looking for information. I see you as prbably a very weak and embarrassed person. Who's probably either a victom, family member or a felon. What you fail to relise is there are people who are inocent in prison, there are people who are guilty of breaking a law, and there are people who are a actual danger to society who need to be institutionalized for the safety of others. What you need to stop and listen to is what is actually being said. There needs to be some changes made in the prisons. The guards need punishment when they commit a crime. As well as the inmates. Ongoing phsychological training and treatment needs to be enforced and given to both the inmates and the guards and it needs to be a continues class that is manditory to attend as long as you are socialially involved in with the prison. That would would be a start to correcting the behavior to all of those who have prison interaction. So in conclusion once again you did not hear the message that is being sent out, and could only focus on pushing the spell check button. Also I do relise a guard has to be firm and not show weakness this image has been created for both sides of the cell, and in inmate can not show weakness either. Do you justify guards giving lifers shanks to use on fellow inmates? Because this does go on. And guards setting up fights? If you condone this, do also attend ILLEGAL cock fights or the fighting of pit bull's? Personally rather then put on a uniform and try to fill the shoes of a guard ( I am not ignorant, I do know what a hard and corageous job this is). I would rather be in a cell with you for a week. I should also point out that in your last statement you used the words currently when speaking about you friends and family. You also said you suspect. Have you not heard the old saying Never assume it makes a ---------
bleeding hearts,I don't think so. no one is saying feel sory for our prisoners. what were saying is,regardless of how or why you end up in prison,everyone deserves to be treated humanely.being locked up in a dark cement cell,with nothing but a hole & a blanket is really going to make that person be good???how does this help them??? locking anyone up in a cell day in & day out makes a person have positive thoughts,makes him think (I'm going to be good)give me a break. you sound just like a policeman. you've been there,I haven't. can you look in the mirror at night & honestly say you did the right things this day???
Has anyone else heard about the two guards that were jumped by prisoner/prisoners? this past week. not a word on t.v.,radio.or in the newspaper.
This is the last time I'm going to waste on you. First of all, I don't care if you are a man or a woman. I only commented on what you wrote. It was not about what sex you are. Again, you make that idiotic comment that your brother "was in the wrong place at the wrong time." Again, I state: You pick your own friends. If he was an innocent bystander (which I highly doubt) he was still with the wrong crowd...and he chose this. No one made him hang around with people who fooled around with an illegal substance that they knew full well would put them in prison if they were caught. You say, "He even forfitted (sic) his motion to dismiss, that took a lot." I submit that if he had a chance to have the charges dismissed and didn't take it, he's an idiot. Why would he choose to spend time in prison if he didn't have to? I believe he had no such chance. You go on to say, "the arresting officers both purgered (sic) them selves (sic) it was clear the case would be thrown out. He was set up, and did take the rap for some one else." Again, if he was innocent and took the blame for someone else, he's an idiot. About me you say, "Unfortuanatly (sic) you live in a little box and refuse to except (sic) the critisism given to you." I can truthfully say the same about you. I've criticized and you've refused to accept it as well. You go on to say, "I expect (sic) that you are a lieing (sic) as well. Why else would you ever have been on this web site unless you where (sic) looking for information." Well, I hate to burst your bubble but I haven't lied about anything in my posts. I'm not a "victom (sic), family member or a felon." Well, I am a family member but not of an inmate, guard or any other person connected to prison. Sorry but you're wrong again. More of your comments were "What you need to stop and listen to is what is actually being said." You should as well. I never said there is no chance a FEW inmates may have been incarcerated in error but I seriously doubt it's as widespread as you think it is. You go on to say I "only focus on pushing the spell check button." For your information I didn't push the spell check button." I learned to spell and write a correct English sentence in school. You, however, should start using the spell check button. Do I "justify guards giving lifers shanks to use on fellow inmates?" B.S. This may have occasionally happened but I doubt it happens very often and if it has happened, I'm also sure it was an isolated incident caused by a guard not by the guards as a group. And no I don't attend cockfights and pit bull fights. I'll leave them to you and yours. Regarding your comment that "Personally rather then put on a uniform and try (sic) to fill the shoes of a guard I would rather be in a cell with you for a week" all I can say is I'm not planning on occupying a cell anytime soon and you are definitely not my type so I don't think that's going to happen (thank God). Yes, I used the word (not words) "currently" when speaking of my friends and family not being inmates. So what? None of my friend or family are in prison. That's currently. Thats why I used the word. None of them have been in prison in the past and I don't anticipate any of them will in the future either. Lastly, you criticized me for using the word "suspect". The only reference to that word I could find in my prior post was "I suspect that what really happened is that he got caught doing what he was charged with." If you don't like that word how about "I believe" or "I think"? Do either of those work better for you? And as for assuming I'm doing no such thing. I'm merely stating my opinions, which seems to be something that you feel only you are entitled to do. Well, guess what? Im entitled to mine too. Tell your brother to get a job, stay out of trouble and he'll never have to worry about how inmates are treated again. Good-bye. Dont bother responding because Ill be ignoring you from now on.
To the one person who said they can't feel sorry for the prisoners. Not all prisoners are criminals. Some were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The prisoners are just as human as you and I. Prison is supposed to reform and help them adjust to positive life style, but if treateds like animals then they will act and think they way they are treated. Take some human study classes. Isolation brings mental destruction, beatings causes violent angry out burst. Tell me you have never committed one crime. Have you lied, cussed some one, thought or said violent thing towards someone. Some prisoners have better hearts then any of us do out here.
I don't know how guards really treat the prisoners, but I do hope you treat them well. Yes! They are all there for something they did or did not do. Some took the blame for others, some just did not learn survival skills in a positive manner. Remember someday we will stand before God the Father the creator of us all and we will give an answer of how we treated each person in this life time. May you question your ways, none of us is better than another, a man may think wrong and he is as quilty as doing it, so walk gently with the prisoners.
to the previous 2 message writers? very well said? thank you both?
my fiance has been incarcerated at high desert state prison since june of 2004 he is serving time on a parole violation which generaly carriesa sentence of no more trhan one year. however he does not yet know how long he will spend there because despite the laws of the baord of prison terms stating that you will be provided a parole hearing within 23 days of incarceration it has been 5 months for us and no one will direct me to whom i can speak with also as far as unsafe enviroments within the prison that has been going on in there for a very long time as well with other prisons in our great state if anyone knows of who to direct these complaints to let me know and i will definatly be willing to help in any way .,... wsscstar2000@yahoo.com
I know many prison guards. Some are turds. Some are loyal enough to die in a pool of blood for you. I happen to be the latter. Do I like all my co-workers? Hell no. But I dont like all my neighbors either. My point is that we have 30,000 prison guards in the state of california and it only takes a few idiots to ruin it for the rest of us. How many homicidal postmen did it take for that to be a national punchline. If you worked under the microscope with 30,000 people you would see some crazy things. While this does not excuse acts of indescretion under the color of authority, you need to realize that most of my co-workers are good, honest, god fearing people who are there to do a job then go home. With our rising wages we are seeing alot of college educated people comming to work behind the walls. Its not about us being there because we cant find "real jobs". I believe you could talk to any inmate who has dealt with me over a period of time and they would say that they got a fair shake. I know because they tell me. If the answer is no, its no for a reason and they respect that, because they know me to be fair. I am the norm not the exception. Prison is a crazy place with crazy rules that are not in any book. I have seen best friends stab eachother because someone at the top of the INMATE food chain told them they had to. Their is not alot of loyalty there. That breeds distrust, which breeds fear and the end result is violence. I could write a book about what I have seen in my career. Just know that anyone, inmate, officer, teacher, counselor, librarian, anyone behind that wall is subject to be a victim at anytime because someone with power said so. When an inmate assaults us, and I have been assaulted, the sac bee, 60 min, 20/20, dont care. I saw a female co-worker beaten into coma for enforcing the rules. No Mike Wallace, no Dan Rather. Inmates get the publicity and often should. If a guard is out of line, something should be done. We deserve the same. Predatory inmates make it hard for programing inmates to stay out of trouble 99% of the time, not guards. The inmates who cry foul are more often than not the worst of the worst. They are people who you would not want living 100 mi from your town. Just remember most of of us are good people who are there to make an honest living. Do our 8 and hit the gate. We dont look for trouble but we often find it anyway.
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Hello i have a son in high desrt state prison serving a 20 year sentence, and he had wrote me telling me about the riot. Know he is on lock down he said it so unsafe, but he will be coming back down to california for his appeal and he will be coming home thank GOD.
I have a son that is in high desert state prison,& the reputation that this prison is the most violent prison around ca. & that it is always in lock down.my son has been there for 2 months he is still in reception,so far 2 guards were jumped,one injured seriously,the other one died another guard was punched in the mouth,& there was a riot. all this within 4 weeks??? I hear that the feds might take over the prison by the first of the year,because of it's violence & the person who is running it? has anyone else heard any of these stories? also with a prison population of 73% lifers,anyone having less than 5 year sentence dosen't stand a chance. I totally agree that the administration of this prison should not only be investegated,but be responsible not only for the lives of the prisoners,but should be responsible for the death or injury to the guards.something is terribly wrong here?
Has anyone heard of anything happening at the prison?
i am a currently parolee from high desert and i understand the trials you put up with rather being any color i know this page is old but if your still there contact me at www.purplemama22@sbcglobal.net
Listen I'm scared to death, I have a friend who is being transferred to HDSP and I have heard nothing but very disturbing things. I fear for his safety! He by no means was innocent of his crime but he has seen the error of his way and I don't want anything to happen to him while he's there. He hides a lot of things from me out of fear that I will worry. But after reading some of these statements and remarks, I can't believe someone hasn't intervined yet. I hope someone does somethings soon before it's to late for the ones that want to change and try to have a normal life. Some of these "FeedBack" comments were very disturbing. For me my friend was in the wrong but I also know that his crime also happened only a month after he turned 18 years of age. People change! And that I believe. He got 17 years, 17 years behind bars having to TRY to look over his shoulder and try to servive. And for me that's a very disturbing thought. He told me of a "Homie" that was locked up with him he was set to get out in a month after being there 14 years was killed on the yard. How sad is that? You serve you're time and right when freedom is in grasped your killed. He was killed by a bullet trying to brake up a riot that was between the whites and the blacks. Needless to say he wasn't either. He was hispanic. I'm glad I found this site but it also makes me sad to think of all the things my friend is hiding from me for my own peace of mind.
My husband of 6 years is there under C and I think they are out of their F@#KING minds to unsegregate them. They just want them all to kill eachother. A$$holes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My husband of 6 years is there under C and I think they are out of their F@#KING minds to unsegregate them. They just want them all to kill eachother. A$$holes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a friend in C...he hasn't said anything to me about being unsegregated? Are they going to do that? Does anyone have any information? My friend is black and I'm white, so he's not prejudiced, but that doesn't mean anything in there. He could still get killed!!! Please, if you have any news PLEASE post it. Thanks!
MY BOYFRIEND IS IN HIGH DESERT STATE PRISON AND WE WANT TO GET MARRIED I BELIEVE THAT HIGH DESERT STATE PRISON SHOULD BE LIABLE FOR ANY AND ALL RACIAL DEATHS FOR PEOPLE SHOULD BE HOUSED ACCORDINGLY. IT IS ALSO IGGNORANT TO ASSSUME THAT OUR SYSTEM IS RACIAL FURTHERMORE IT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS.
THE FACT IS THE PRISON SYSTEM IS NOT ABOUT TO CHANGE ITS POLICIES ANYTIME SOON. THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT AND CANNOT BE FIXED FROM WITHIN. IT IS UP TO US TO FORCE CHANGE. THERE IS NO GOOD REASON FOR THE OFFICIALS IN CHARGE OF THE PRISON SYSTEM TO DO WHATS RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE IS NO MONEY IN DOING THE RIGHT THING. TO THEM THEY ARE NOT INMATES OR CONVICTS OR CONS BUT MERELY CATTLE LIVESTOCK TO BE HERDED AND MAINTAINED IF REMEMBERED. SO I ASK, WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ITS A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY AND DON'T EVEN THINK IT WON'T HAPPEN TO YOU. THE ONLY THING LEFT IS TO DO WHAT WE'VE ALL READ ABOUT IN OUR HISTORY BOOKS THROUGH OUT TIME. REVOLUTION
How is a revolution going to help our loved ones in prison?
I BEIEVE THAT IF THERES DOUBT THERE IS NO DOUBT. FOR INNOCENTS DOES NOT FEAR CONVICTION. THE VALIDITY OF OUR SYSTEMS HONOR AND INTEGRITY IS IN QUESTION.IF WE LET OUR GOVERNMENT GOVERN IN CHAOS AWAITS ITS ARIVIAL. WE MUST NOT LET OUR ELLECTED OFFICIALS FAR SHORT OF THE EXCELENCE THEY ARE REQUIRED.NOT TO MENTION DEMAND AND ENFORCE OTHERS TO ABID.
I BELIEVE THAT TRUTH DOES NOT FEAR CONVICTION. OUR GOVERNMENT MUST NOT GOVERN IN CHAOS. THE PEOPLE WHO RUN OUR NATION MUST CONTAIN THEMSELVES NEVER TO FALL SHORT OF THE EXCCLENCE THEY ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD. IT IS CRUCIAL THAT THE SYSTEM IS IN NO WAY MEDIOCCUR. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLEY NOR BE IGGNORED! ALLEGATIONS MADE ARE INDIFFRENT AND QUESTIONABLE. UNJUST AND DISHONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD MADE EXAMPLES OF. IN OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM. PEOPLE , AND I DO MEAN HUMAN BEINGS NEED CERTIAN PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS . TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG.HOPEFULLY IT CAN BE FIXED. OUR FREEDOM IS BEING EROUDED. OUR SAFTEY IS BEING SHUNED. PEOPLE "HUMAN LIVES" ARE TO BE LOST. IF OUR PRISONS PRISONERS ARE BEING CLASSIFIED AS THE SAME BUT BIOLOGICALY DIFFERNET THEN THEY WONT MIX WELL. THEN IT IS OBSURED TO CLASSIFY OUR VOTER BALLETS ANY DIFFRENT THAN OUR PRISONERS.
I BELIEVE THAT TRUTH DOES NOT FEAR CONVICTION. OUR GOVERNMENT MUST NOT GOVERN IN CHAOS. THE PEOPLE WHO RUN OUR NATION MUST CONTAIN THEMSELVES NEVER TO FALL SHORT OF THE EXCCLENCE THEY ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD. IT IS CRUCIAL THAT THE SYSTEM IS IN NO WAY MEDIOCCUR. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLEY NOR BE IGGNORED! ALLEGATIONS MADE ARE INDIFFRENT AND QUESTIONABLE. UNJUST AND DISHONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD MADE EXAMPLES OF. IN OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM. PEOPLE , AND I DO MEAN HUMAN BEINGS NEED CERTIAN PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS . TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG.HOPEFULLY IT CAN BE FIXED. OUR FREEDOM IS BEING EROUDED. OUR SAFTEY IS BEING SHUNED. PEOPLE "HUMAN LIVES" ARE TO BE LOST. IF OUR PRISONS PRISONERS ARE BEING CLASSIFIED AS THE SAME BUT BIOLOGICALY DIFFERNET THEN THEY WONT MIX WELL. THEN IT IS OBSURED TO CLASSIFY OUR VOTER BALLETS ANY DIFFRENT THAN OUR PRISONERS.
I BELIEVE THAT TRUTH DOES NOT FEAR CONVICTION. OUR GOVERNMENT MUST NOT GOVERN IN CHAOS. THE PEOPLE WHO RUN OUR NATION MUST CONTAIN THEMSELVES NEVER TO FALL SHORT OF THE EXCCLENCE THEY ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD. IT IS CRUCIAL THAT THE SYSTEM IS IN NO WAY MEDIOCCUR. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLEY NOR BE IGGNORED! ALLEGATIONS MADE ARE INDIFFRENT AND QUESTIONABLE. UNJUST AND DISHONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD MADE EXAMPLES OF. IN OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM. PEOPLE , AND I DO MEAN HUMAN BEINGS NEED CERTIAN PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS . TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG.HOPEFULLY IT CAN BE FIXED. OUR FREEDOM IS BEING EROUDED. OUR SAFTEY IS BEING SHUNED. PEOPLE "HUMAN LIVES" ARE TO BE LOST. IF OUR PRISONS PRISONERS ARE BEING CLASSIFIED AS THE SAME BUT BIOLOGICALY DIFFERNET THEN THEY WONT MIX WELL. THEN IT IS OBSURED TO CLASSIFY OUR VOTER BALLETS ANY DIFFRENT THAN OUR PRISONERS.
OK, so the question remains...how will a revolution, short of storming every prison in the country and freeing every prisoner, (which by the way is tactically impossible)benefit our loved ones who are imprisoned. You talk a good rhetoric, but you aren't backing it up with any facts. The truth remains that there are people we love who are imprisoned and at the mercy of uncaring and often biased correctional officers. How do you suggest we hold these officers accountable for their actions? By making an example of an elected official? I can guarantee you that the majority of correctional officers see what they are doing to our prisoners as necessary and right. They have a sense that prisoners are low-life scum who deserve the treatment they are receiving because they were convicted in a court of law. These ideas are ingrained into the American psyche...the only reason most of us on this forum don't feel the same is because we love someone who is incarcerated. So, how do we change that attitude?
I feel sorry for the families of the inmates who are locked-up at H.D.S.P., but not the inmates.I would hate to be fed all the B.S. I hear about what goes on in the prison if I had a loved one living there, especially since most of it is generated by the pathological liars who do live there. Its not fair to their families. But if they cared about their families most of them would not be there in the first place.
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As a daughter of a former Peace Officer that worked high up in the admin. of High Desert State Prison, I would like to say that well, jeez: AT LEAST THEY AREN'T PRISONERS IN CAMBODIA, OR IRAQ. There are more worse places to be in than a prison in the liberal state of California. Yes, there are other people who should be 'priority one' on the pity-list, other than inmates in a prison system; i can write up this whole page on whom those people are, but i'm not. Have all of you actually, physically, been inside the prison? No, I'm guessing not all of you. As a first-hand witness, these prisoners are treated well for being PRISONERS. yea, i'm sure everybody with a close relative in the Joint is going to be the first person to defend them saying 'oh, he didn't do ANYTHING wrong'. Well sweethearts, tell that to the judge and jury who decided to put them in jail for their actions. The prisoners are not being treated to the extent of it being 'abuse'. Hey people, I am a registered Green Party member, Democratic voter, and lemme tell you: the circle of karma is coming round on the prisoners, and the guards, staff, admin., etc., of the prison are just there helping work it out. They don't ASK and pray for more prisoners to come to their already over-crowded prison. They all have to be on their guard themselves. There are dozens and dozens of prisoners at a time out in the yard with a handful of guards on the 'floor' with them. When I went there, all of the inmates in each housing cell were outside, mostly exercising (of course), playing basketball, etc., and just hanging out. It's not the crisis situation that prisoners' make it out to be. I can understand though about being freaked out doing time at any high-max security prison. No prison is safe with a few thousand men in it. Good God. Common sense can foresee all the problems that would happen with that much testosterone in one little place day in and day out. If it wasn't for officials in charge, the whole prison would be ANARCHY. All of the relatives people have in there would definitely be hurt, or even worse.... This is about 'fighting the man' on these websites, and I know it. It would definitely be hard having a son or daughter be put in a place like prison. With the gang system intact that prisoners thrive on and their 'codes of conduct' there is a lot to fear, not of the prison guards, etc., but of other prisoners themselves. Gang activity is so diverse that not only each ethnic group is a 'gang', but 'gangs' within each ethnic group are evident. it's not the prison officials' job to cater to each gang and to take requests from them. The people incharge of the prison are well versed in what is going on with the gangs, and who hates who. It's like being in-charge of a high school, and knowing which cliques are around who start trouble. Believe me THEY ALL KNOW ABOUT IT. If they didn't, wouldn't there be more riots and inmates getting hurt? Gangs are a major factor in what is looked after, inmate-wise. Again, common sense: wouldn't there be more fighting and riots if guards didn't 'give a shit'? I am writing this to everybody that has a relative in the prison system. Yes, a hand-full of people are convicted of crimes, that they didn't commit, everyday. Inmate problems have to stop for all of these 'injustices' as people on this web-page call them. Did anyone contact the prison to find out why things were taken away? Events happen within the prison system that make the admin., guards, etc. act this way. Maybe not everybody is bad who is in prison, but people working with prisoners have to take precautions. There are many more incidences of prison personnel getting assaulted, stalked, stabbed, etc., then there are of prison riots. Sure, everyday, prisoners 'cry foul' and say they have been 'abused' or that their 'rights have been taken away'. it's too bad when a few bad apples spoil it for the whole bunch. If someone you know is in prison, tell them not to get caught up in the gang-activity, because it just spreads it more and more, and prison officials have to tighten up security. Just jumping on the 'band-wagon' on a web-site like this is ridiculous. Please, everyone, get the facts first before condemning ALL the people who work in the prison system. No body in charge wants to voluntarily do these things, like take everyday items away from prisoners; they don't want to have to deal with EVEN MORE 'lawsuits' of people being abused. If they all were doing something REALLY wrong, they would all be in jail. The people who run 'the show' are being watched as well. Watched by the government, state officials, auditors, etc., and by, of course, us, the public. My dad, and all the people who are dedicated to their jobs make it a priority for prisoner safety and rights. I do CONDEMN anybody who is in a position of authority and abuses it. The checks and balences system must be in place, i.e.: public protests, changing laws, etc. All I am asking is that you all be fair about it, and not biosed. Not all prison officals are good, and not all prisoners are bad. There just needs to be some balance in finding out The Truth.
I FOUND THIS WEB PAGE LOOKING FOR INFO ABOUT SOMEONE @ HIGH DESERT. I HAVE CALLED SEVERAL #'S & LEFT MY # ON MANY MACHINES FOR 3 MONTHS. NO ONE HAS RETURNED MY CALLS. I DO NOT KNOW IF MY UNCLE IS DEAD OR ALIVE. THE MAIL I SEND HIS IS RETURNED WITH OUT A REASON. DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW I CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH A PERSON @ THAT PRISON? OR IS THERE A DIRECTORY OF PERHAPS EMAIL ADDRESSES FOR INMATES @ THE PRISON? aNY HELP FROM ANY ONE WOULD BE GREAT! THANKS