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Its no surprise that there are not many comments here - after all Joe Public seems to think that prisoners are less than animals. I would be interested to find out more about the Coverup Quilt - please email me at ="mailto:ljanklip@amandla.org">ljanklip@amandla.org
anyway i can help???i dont think youll be able to win but it sounds like the prisons system is hurting the people instead of rehabilating them.and thats mostly the poor
re any way too help.killer@prolog.net
When you get your face bashed in by some miscreant punk, remember the ideology and goals you purport to be 'progressive', and continue to bash law enforcement. Law enforcement is a cross-section of the American populace. Officers are trained, socialized, and educated....not born. So keep spewing your Marxist diatribes and be comforted in the realization that a Police Officer would still give his life for you should he have to.
I wish you luck in your endevor. Being the wife of an EX con (Notice the EX!) I have heard plenty, read even more and seen the results of what our correctional system is capable of. The nightmares and Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome suffered by my husband and endured by our whole family remind me every day. People prefer not to think about prisons and they assume that cons can never change. WRONG! Those that get out alive deserve the support needed to change. Instead they are refused a shot at a normal life. Or as in the case of your son, any life. Our hearts go out to you, there but for the grace of God goes my husband.
ILL SOLVE YOUR CRIME FOR YOU.....HIS NAME IS "ANGRY" BEAR....NOT "REAL NICE HAPPY SMILING" BEAR IT WAS HIS FAULT.......ANOTHER HINT....HES AN INMATE IN FOLSOM PRISON....NOT AN UNHAPPY GUEST AT T THE HOLIDAY INN.....IT WAS HIS FAULT...........SEE JUST LOOSEN UP ITS NOT THAT BAD, YOUR NOT THE ONE WHO GOT SHOT...YOU WORRY ABOUT TRIVIAL BULLSHIT
I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your son, Tony. I hope you succeed in your attempt for justice. P.S. just ignore the callous bastard that wrote just before me... what a creep.
What really happened is not depicted above. Bear was in a very bad situation, a situation created by himself. A person does not get to where he was without being a violent person. There is no worse place to be in the entire world. He was taken over by an evil spirit and suffered the ultimate price. If you look for fault look within the person and how he brought himself to be there. Start from the beginning. Who taught him right from wrong? Who taught him the way's of the great spirit? Who failed to teach him these things? We can put blame on who or what ended his existance on this earth but I know many Native American's here and they blame a youngsters fathers unwillingness to teach the true ways of upbringing in the Native American culture. So start at the begining for fault.
this storie was enhanced by the pictures and leaves you with questions.
I hope that justice is found for this man. I don't know what the loss of a child is like personally and I hope I never have to face that. I only know if I do, I hope to have the courage this man has in the midst of an uninformed society. His son's punishment was incarceration, not death. There is a difference. My prayers are with this family.
If anyone believes this you are truely an Idiot. Do you really believe that State and Federal offices ( Attorney General & FBI ) would risk thier entire agencies over one prison gaurd. Get a Life and accept the facts.
i'd rather have the folk's at folsom snuffed than continue to support them so that they can eventually be released and add to the recidivism stats.
You are quick to piont out that they found no weapons, but did the the other inmate have stab wounds.If so does it mater if he was shot in the front or the back CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS WALK THE LINE WITH WORST PEOPLE LFE HAS TO OFFER (SO THAT WE WON'T) , WE SHOULD THANK THEM!
I don't think that it is right for correctional officers to abuse their power. They are there to rehabilitate the inmates not to make them worst. They are just making them angrier, causing more violence within themselves and toward other people. Don't be ignorant and just lock them away.
Ah yes. Another innocent resident of the DOC sent to the Great Lockup in the sky. Would you care to give us figures of how many corrections officers have been shot, stabbed, beaten, injected with HIV+ blood, had shit thrown on them or verbally abused by these innocents.
Just because no knife or shiv was found at the scene doesn't mean one wasn't there earlier. Prisoners are well known to remove such items as soon as the corrections officers attention is diverted. Further it is pretty hard to shoot a man in the chest from the front as he stabs someone IN FRONT OF HIM. I am aware of no one capable of stabbing some one behind him or directly to the side. Angry Bear was shot in the back bacause that is the side he had turned toward the officer as he stabbed the other inmate.
I was there the day this took place.. It was an unfortunate incident, which was precipitated by Inmate Nieto.. Moses did not intend or plan to kill inmate Nieto, he was responding to an incident of violence on a SHU yard which was clearly marked "No warning shots fired in this area, R.G. Borg, Warden." The SHU is a dangerous place and everyone who lives or works there knows the risks..
Are all the guards at Folsom and Corcoran related or what? What ever happened to good ol'stun guns. I pray Angry Bear gets his day in court. And Warden Borg should be there so the "fair" judge can get a piece of him too! Lets all pray for justice now.
GOOD I AM GLAD THE WORTHLESS CONVICT BASTARD IS DEAD. IF WE KILLED MORE OF THIS NATIONS CONVICTS, THIS COUNTRY WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE....................................
I feel that if we killed more fascist goons like proxy14 the world would be alot, LOT, better place to live.
id just like tosay that i too have and know the inside as well as the out,and as there is good in both but i dont believe we (convicts) should be labeled (sub society) when one is sentenced to state federal or even county time .i have been through the humiliation and callous treatment of being booked into the system and believe it inhumane.i also have a loved one who was submitted to unjust treatmentand feel that there has to be a change. and hope that you and others continue to bring this messge as well as others to the world in hopes that someday someone will take notice of the violence taking place inside our prisons.may the grandfather walk with you in all your journeys.. all respects ad best wishes, to all who suffer and live the pain dailey. theresa ... northern california
first of all,people should be careful not to be foolish when responding.It is easy to say what some of these people said to be glad this inmate is dead etc.It just goes to show us that there are alot of people outside prison that really are probably capable of being inside prison. you can see by their lack of wisdom and hatred and harshess and unforgivness that they all have issues in thier life and want to say something cruel to tony nieto.All parents make mistakes when raising our childeren but when the child grow up they are capable of seeing their issues and they have to make the change themself. Tony is not responsible in respone to some fools response. I have a loved one at folsom right now and would never want death to occur in prison to them. If someone does not have the death penalty they have the right to be protected by all times. they have rights just like us for medical, dental, and protection from harm. where is the protection. who cares if there is violence in prison who is protecting the good from those who really just live to kill for the fun of it. they deserve protection where is the protection. otherwise our laws are completely stupid. prisoners have a right to be portected 24 hrs a day in prison from those who want to kill just like outside the prison in society. So i think the laws better wise up and get to work on this and see to it that it happens or there is nothing good to come from prison for the inmates. just victims inside and outside we will have. people need to be and feel safe if people cannot be unviolent then let the violent stay in one place with all the violent and let them kill each other they will all be there for the same reason and maybe the rest of the inmates can enjoy in safety the rest of their time.
I AM A CORRECTION OFFICER WAS THERE A RIOT CAUSE I WORK AT A MAX FACILITY AND WE DO NOT CARRY WEAPONS IN SIDE YES OFFENDERS SHOULD DO THERE TIME AND THEY ARE ASS HOLES ALL THE TIME AND COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERY THING BUT SHOULD NOT BE GUN DOWN FOR NO REASON ( BUT BOY WOULD THAT BE NICE TO SHOT THEM FOR RUNNING THERE MOUTH THAT WOULD BE NICE....LOL )
All you seem to be doing is giving only half of this story and looking to get the average citizen involved in your game. Why don't you tell the whole story then people could make their own qualified conclusion. You die hard liberals make me sick and continue to act in a irresponsible manner that boarders on the criminal. You continue to use half truths to gain your goals.
My dad is a CO at Folsom Prison and ppp-209-81... NO THEY ARE NOT ALL RELATED at Folsom and Concarn or where ever you said they were. Are you an inmate? You can't be an officer or a child of an officer or you would understand the stress that these asshole inmates put on the officers. You wouldn't understand what they go through everyday. So you need to get your facts straight before you open your mouth or type your response!!!
We as human beings can make all kinds of excuses for the murdering of Angry Bear Nieto and many others in the name of Just-Us, and those who choose can defend their family members who work as C/O's, and we know there are many good C/O's. Nevertheless, my Indian Brother Angry Bear was shot in the back by a so called correctional officer and the State has still done nothing about this murder. This C/O should be tried for murder, for that is what he committed. For the ignorant ones who say Angry Bear was where he belonged, he was violent, did you know him? To date, 4/18/99 there are 1.8 MILLION human beings in prison in this United States, 1.2 MILLION are NON/VIOLENT NON/SERIOUS OFFENDERS. Do not speak of Angry Bear or disrespect his name unless you knew him. Whether he was in prison or not, that by no means JUSTIFIES MURDER IN THE NAME OF JUST-US. Or in those who put him down, maybe it does, maybe you are just plain ignorant. How would you feel if it was your loved one??? Does it mean that because one is a correctional officer they have the right to kill? Correctional officer bad term, for those types of officers corrected nothing and make it bad for the ones who do care. Just look at what is still going on and the exposure of Corcoran etc. Think about it "One bad apple spoils the whole bunch". For the person who made the comment about "asshole inmates" on 3/15/99 you NEED to wake up and smell the coffee. Prisoners are human beings just as correctional officers are. MURDER IS A CRIME NO MATTER WHO COMMITTED IT PERIOD. A BADGE TO KILL NO WAY!!!!!!!!!! Roberta "Lil Wildflower" Robles Cherokee Indian CALIFORNIANS 2 AMEND 3 STRIKES C.A.T.S. "The Transistion for Freedom"
Well after reading all these feedbacks, I see that many people don't knows what exactly goes on behind the walls. As a former inmate at Old Folsom, I have seen with my eyes what goes on. The CDC can do what ever it wanst to do; regardless of the State and federal laws. For example Level 1 and 2 prison are not supposed to have firearms inside the walls, but they do. Why is this? Calif had made that law but only for CDC to laugh at the lawmakers. 2. Calif has a law on haircutting, you cut hair, you get paid you need to be licensed; again prison HIRE inmates to do the haircuts without a license. Why is this? again CDC laughs. As for cops risks their lives for yours BULLSHIT! the only thing the cops gives a damn about is how they can shoot and kill someone and get away with murder, that is when they are not shoving doughnuts into their faces. Inmates puts a stress on CO's again BULLSHIT!!! CO's sit on their fat asses all day and night long, then when feel bored they go tear up someone's cell for no reason. Did you all know that Pete Wilson's wife had made a deal with Folsom Prison; this deal involves inmates putting together brand new computers and selling them on the market. Only some of the inmates gets paid for this service 12 cents an hour the other inmates do it for free, Wilson's wife sells these new computers for big $$$ these computers are supposed to be going to schools for no charge but instead the schools get the repaired computers people donate. if you haven't been inside the walls don't talk what you do not know about. My prayers go out to the Nieto family and hopefully one day they'll have Moses Guerro ass in the chair cooking. Think on this; just why is it California has so many inmates locked up? We might as well just place a fence around California and place guards on the borders. Calif. Prisons are nothing more than a human warehouse/bank. For each inmate the state gets money from the federal gov't. The more inmate the more money the state gets. You can let the state control your life but i'll be damn if i will let them control mine. To all my brothers and sisters that are locked up I remember you always, AHO!!! BrokenSpoon
After reading the heart rendering comments by the responders, it appears that most people who read this drivvel don't really care, and the others who do, don't respond. The prison inmates are there because they violated the laws of the state of California. So be it. Now, when you play, you pay. You go to prison, youy have to obey their rules. If you don't you pay the consequences. Murder is murder, and is dealt with accordingly. Too bad for the guy who gote shot, however, that's what you get for doing what you did. Secondly, the reason those people work as guards in the prison, and the rest of us don't? We don't have the guts to, for the responsibility that comes with the territory, and the lousy money to boot.
There is no reason why justice has not been served in the murder of our Brother, Angry Bear except due to the negligence of the political powers that be. Brother Tony Nieto is not only our brother, but my husband Mucsuss Robles had the privilege of being Brother Angry Bear's brother and friend before Angry Bear was murdered by the Correctional Officer/s. It is way past time to put this case to rest, and to have justice be served not only in the memory or Angry Bear, but for his family and for the American Indian people. We as American Indians know what suffering is and what injustices are, we have dealt with them for many, many years. So now I implore all of the people of this so called "free Nation" to help bring justice in the memory of Angry Bear Nieto, and make sure that the correctional officers of any prison can "Never" get away with this again. Aho, Lil Wildflower Robles Cherokee Nation "One does not sell the earth upon which the people walk" Crazy Horse http://firms.findlaw.com/mucsuss/practices.html
With out having more information let me say that inside a prison weapons disappear quick. Convicts grossly out number the correctional staff. Let me last say do the crime, do the time. You make choises in life. If you cross when it say's dont walk and get hit by bus and die, its your fault. If you rob, rape, murder, ect. someone and go to prison, you may become a punk, or die. Its your fault. "gjg"
Some of these posts are unbelievable! Cops actually excusing their own criminal behavior by claiming to be human beings, people excusing guards by proclaiming that the death penalty is appropriately carried out by guards, because the victims are imprisoned, etc. With 2 million Americans in prison, many for petty offenses against themselves, maybe these idots ought to worry a little, if only for their own safety. You have my condolences. I can only imagine what you must be going through.
he should have shot him in the head
My name is Lee,I did time here in California.Mainly in Soledad st.pen.a.k.a. C.T.F.north-facility mostley. Tho I was lucky to have never have caught on of the many,many bullets & "big-Birthas" shot into the areas I had been in these times,I simpathize with this man whom was shot/gunned down like a dog. I hope this mans' family who are the living victims of this murdering cop."alledgedly"?? Let's just see if justice really means justice,Or,"JUST-US".... From an ex-con in Fresno. Outta the joint,almost 14yrs.clean time!!
jstice will be served hang in there brother.
this page sux
CONVICTS SUCK If only we could only make it legal to use them as real life firearms targets for police officers
My carreer has allowed me to work within the confines of a maximum security institution. Unless you have spent time working and or living around the inmates, you might not understand what they are like. Some prisoners leave others alone, often they are borderline retarded people, often the inmates must satiate their immediate needs without waiting appropriately, just add your broken home and family environment with a cornucopia of drugs and thugs and there are issues. The inmates, that I usually meet, have very little formal education and lack the development of good coping mechanisms through out their lives. Not every youth is taught how to distinguish between right and wrong while growing up. Prison is definitely not a cool place to reside; hopefully some will learn that fact before death and or incarceration is the end result of questionable activity and thought.
Angry Bear was a thug loser, just like the cry baby liberals shooting their liberal mouths off, If you beleive there wasnt a reason to shoot the con in that yard , then you dont understand law enforcement. C.O.'s and police officers shoot to kill to defend another life, we dont practice warning or wounding shots. Criminal Angry bear was attempting to kill another human..The C.O. did his job and I FOR ONE THANK HIM!
I think Angry Bear was Gay
Surveillance Cameras are on for the protection of the person hired to observe and report ,and for the person in custody ,not to shield them from the Law .
this is gay
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yeah well why did he get put in jail
Tony I'am very sorry for your lost. Some people seem to forget that inmates are still humans and belong to a family.HUMANS! who for some reason have made mistakes and sent to prison as a form of punishment but more important rehabilitation not for a death setence! What alot of people dont realize is that our jail system is over crowed due to the justice system that will put none violent,first-timers away for an outrages amount of time. On top of that you have a piont system you also have to go by in order to find your prison placement.A young firstimer,with no girlfriend or wife,or without a high school diploma can get a higher score landing him in a level 4 facility among harder crimanals. This causing him to adapt to his new envionment just to survive. This can add many more years to the sentence,making a harder crimanal of this one time offender and also making hime angry!who would'nt be in the same situation. Remember the jail system is as much to blame for makeing our love ones repeated offenders. They do more damage than help.Without any real rehabilitation for these inmates there will be no help for our sociaty once they are released.Most crimes are done by former inmates who havent learn any other way to live.No matter what sent your son to prison he did'nt deserve to die there.Keep fighting and hopefully some who cares will listen.
I think that the prison guard shpuld be charge with murder and i think it was reteleation
I think that the prison guard shpuld be charge with murder and i think it was reteleation
Being Native American I know Guerro will face the consquences for his illegal actions. There are laws that applies to everyone and what Guerro did was nothing but cold blooded murder. Being in Folsom for 2.5 yrs I KNOW what goes on there and many of the COs there should be locked up. The COs figure they have the badge and power to do what they want, well they don't and the inmates are now fighting back and if it means to take a COs life so be it. The COs can dish it out but they sure in hell can't take it when it comes back to them. Co's are nothing but wimps that try to be bullies. Look at a few years ago what happen with the latinos, they had the choice to stop that riot did they NOPE. Bulter should get more than being fired and allowed to retire collecting her pension, she shoudl be locked up in a prison and let her face what she has dealt out at Folsom. YOu wont see me slapping a CO on his/her back for doing their job, more like to whack them upside the head with a 2x4 instead. The criminal system is all corrupted and no one should ever trust it. Many innocent people get locked up due to cover-ups, why must an innocent person suffer someone's screw-up? Keep fighting Tony dont give up Guerro will get his Wapacoli Ani May the Creator walk with you Safe Journey Bro
my name is robert garcia,my mother side is navaho and apache,we also had a brother that was in the prison system,i remember visiting him once a month,i alway found him beat-up by the guards in prison,my mother would cry at night, i could here in the next room,i'd lay next to her to comfort her she would alway say too me,.. the guards are going too kill my son,..she passed away after those statments...thay never killed him but thay got close,..he got out after five years,he was never right after that,he only used drugs,he was a realy good person to know,his time in prison had taken his toll,he got releast, he lasted a few months than he killed him self,..one day when he was alive he had mentioned too me that if he gets in any trouble for drugs again,he wouldn't want too go back too prison,he told me that if he did, the guards would kill him for sure,he had told me that if he's going to die he would rather die out here in the streets,he also said that he would have a better chance out here than in prison, mother was happy too see him again,ones in a while she would tell me that she worrys very much that he might end up in prison again and the guards would kill him,she worried her life away,she was right thay would of killed him,know one can hurt them now,... their together now in death,and i know my mother is happy because know she can take good care of him and not worry about the guards killing him, " Note" --God Help us all, as far as Angry bear,i'm with him all the way,..i stand next too his father with pride and respect,...and most of all with support,..some one has too pay for his son's life,and i say let it be the man that shot him in the back and killed him,.....Moses guerro,
Hello, I'm so sorry to hear of this tragic sad thing that happend. I have a family member in prison and I know in there the inmates have no rights, they say they do but they don't. My prayers are with you and yours. If I can write a letter to help or somthing let me know. From Texas my justice prevale. God Bless Brenda
I Have a similar case except the final product is not death, this time who can i talk to for help???? email me @ lost4love15@yahoo.com sincerly cinnamon Ann Marshall my phone Number 916 366 7533
even if they do piss you off you dont shoot them in the back unless your a puss.Taylor Dobbs
I know how you feel about cover ups. My name is Shelia Clay and I live in Atlanta, GA. My brother inlaw in the federal prison in West Virginia. He was stabbed by a correction officer in the prison. The officer plead guilty and now my brother inlaw has been transfered all over and received death threaths. Now he trying to file a law suite and the threaths continue. Do you have any advise on what we can do to save his life? My email address is woo617@yahoo.com Thank you
YO GO DAD. COPS GET AWAY WITH ALOT OF STUFF. THEY THINK THERE GOD OR SOMBODYLIKE HIM. I HOPE YOU GET YOUR JUSTICE AND THAT COP PAYS.....
Well, another page from a "Hug a thug" who instead of thinking of how these people ended up in prison and are now having to live within there own "prison politics". The officers are teh ones who are living a normal life, raising kids, staying in school to become something better in life. Not taking away from someone or hurting someone to better themselves. Quit this cover up story and get back to the bottom line, they are inmates. They got themselves there!
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